Notes of Hans Witte Sr., 1484
-- Write to Quedlinburg to see if they can be found, or at least who knows where the records are - SRE 1997?
-- Wrote 18 Oct 2000 to Quedlinburg for his marriage, as well as his daughter's record (Maria).
-- Received a reply dated 11 Jan 2001 from Christoph Schröter, Pastor em., Quedlinburg parish, Adelheidstrasse 12, D-06484 Quedlinburg, GERMANY. He says: "In charge of the 3 Protestant churches in Quedlinburg for "ancestors work" I received your letter (20.Oct.2000) just now. In the 17. century 5 Protestant churches existed in our town. Only in one of them,St. Nikolai (parish New Town) I found Marie Witte (the name Witte is usual then in other parts of teh city too, but with different names). The name Elsholtz is unknown here. The text follows: "26. Augusti (1665) Hanß Witte eine Tochter Maria genandt. Die Pathen: 1. Steffen Carsten, 2. Andreas Möhlbach, 3. Maria, Daniel Giesecken Hausfrau." = "26 August 1665, Hanß Witte [had] a daughter named Maria. The witnesses: 1. Steffen Carsten, 2. Andreas Möhlbach, 3. Maria, Daniel Giesecken, housewife." I hope this note is what you need. Marriage of the parents: "18. May 1652 Hans Witte, Bürger und Ackerknecht allhier und Catharina Heinrich Reicharts von Ditburg hinterlassene Tochter" = "18. May 1652 Hans Witte, citizen and laborer servant, of this parish, and Catharina, daughter of deceased Heinrich Reichart from Ditburg." Hans Witte was baptized 30 May 1627, died 2 June 1672. 8 children were born, Maria was Nr. 6. The father of Hans Witte had the same name. He died 31 Aug 1636. I hope these dates can help you. Thank you for the check and the coupons. This is quite enough. Sincerely, Christoph Schröter" - SRE 20 Jan 2001.
-- Checked Bürgerbücher 1658-1850 (for Quelinburg). On FHL 1633136, searched beginning to 1662 (frame 66). Found only one entry for a Witte. I don't imagine it could be this person, as he was from Wittenberg, and the one found was from Mooßbach: "Den 5 Juny ist Hanß Wittig außen Vogtlander von Mooßbach...1659 (frame 19). (But our people were also most likely from Mooßbach.)
-- Am in the Quedlinburg Stadtarchiv today. I found in the "Häuser-Verzeichnis der Stadt Quedlinburg von 1637-1668", a typescript of house property sales from 1637-1668, no page numbering, arranged by street:
"Umb den Marckt... [2nd p.] Henricus Witte (p. 84 in original book). EinWohnhaus, eine Hufe Lehnacker vom Vater, so verteilt: 1/3 hewrrn Heinrich Witten itzo bei Baltazar Winecken, !/3 Samuel Schlütern, itzo Barthol. Schlütern. 1/3 Johann Bansen, itzo Christoph Bansen 1 Garten vom Mag. Absdorfen, davon 1/3 Herr Witten das andere Tönnies Hörning". Not sure if this would be Heinrich the father of Hans, his son Heinrich (more likely), or perhaps even another relative. No other Witte's mentioned in the typescript.
-- There's another typescript of the Schoßbuch of 1602. After that, I'm going to the Schoßbücher themselves, which go from 1520 on up through 1620 (and later, but these are the ones I have at my desk). Witte's mentioned in typescript of 1602 Schoßbücher: p. 1: "Hans Wietten Witwe, 2 fl. (street, Hohenstrae)" -- p. 4, "Andreas Wiette, 2 fl. (street: Zwischenden Dohren)" -- p. 4, "Valtin Witte kopf (20) (steet Vff der Worth)" -- p. 7, Heinrich Witte 3 fl. (Weberstraße) [it's a pure guess, but I think this is is Hans' dad. He is taxed a bit more than the others and may have been older]. Nothing else for 1602.
-- Now checking the 1597 list. Made it about ten pages into list, and didn't find any, but maybe I should make a bigger jump. I could check this one again, but it would be last priority. I think I had better start with the 1585 list, and then 1561-67, 1549, 1534, 1530-31, 35, 37, 38, and finally 1520, 24, 25, 29. Then I can come back to 1597 list. It is so close to 1602, which I just did, I don't think I'll be picking up many direct-line ancstors in that one. So for 1585:
-- 1585: p. 1, Hohenstrasse: Hans Witte 3 fl. -- from the section "Neuenstedter (another town, or a class of people? -- s.o. in archive informs me that they were part of Quedlinburg, but the Altstadt people were the merchants and the Neustadt people were more the farmers and were looked down upon)", p. 34, we have Frantz Witten, 2 fl. -- Neustadt (under "Kinder der Augustiner), p. 34, Heinrich Witte 2.5 fl.
-- v. 1561-1567: 1561: p. 3, Hans Witte 4 fl. (1561-3) -- p. 10b Franz Witte 1 fl. (der weiiertrassen andere teil?) -- 1562: p. 22, Hans Witte 4 fl. -- p. 50b Hans Witte 5 (ort.?) -- p. 51 Claus Witten? 1 fl. -- p. 71b Franz Witte 1 ort 3 ... 1 ort 3 nicolaj enig? 3 helk? -- same p. Asmus Witte 1 fl. (both of last 2 ufm Kelbermargkte). Going to jump back to 1549 now.
-- 1549: p. 9, Hans Witte 33/gl ht. 3 Rjo 2 1/4 -- p. 28 Frantz Witte 1 fl or R.
-- 1534: p. 13, ___ Witte iii fl. First name looks like Heyn. Compared handwriting and yes, it ends in ...eyn. Now just need to verify first letter. All his H's look different, but it still looks like an H or a T. T would not be quite right. I will leave it H for now -- p. 19b Josef Witten 1 fl. -- p. 21 Drens (looks pretty clear) 1 fl. -- p. 23b Hans Witten 4 fl? Looked almost a bit like Wittze -- p. 27 b Asmis Witte 1 fl. -- Mathias Witte 1 fl. p. 40.
-- In the 1530-1538 Scho-register book, I am skipping, and rather goin g back to the 1520 book, which ocvers 1520, 24, 25, 29. If I still have time (which I probably won't), I'll go into the 1530, 31, 35, 37, 38 book.
-- 1520, 24, 25, 29: 1520: nothing (that I could read at least) -- 1524: nothing.
-- A historian in the Quedlinburg Stadtarchiv told me that an archive in Magdeburg would have tons of stuff, the Landesarchiv. Also one in Oranienburg in the pre-Prussian? time, and one in Berlin.
Steve Blodgett, a good German researcher at the FHL, told me today that it is a very common practice for a child to be named after a witness, though it varies from area to area. The researcher, Christoph Schröter was apparently quite sure that this was the correct person, and being familar with his own records, this seems more likely than not. SRE 2001?
-- Are there also wills or Nachlässe, Inventursprotokollen? There are supposed to be at this archive Nachlässe, which used to be here 30 years ago, but probably all that has been taken to Magdeburg, SRE 26 Sep 2003.
Heinrich Witte 1573's notes:
hier habe ich im Bürgerbuch einige Krause und Witte gefunden:
Krause:
19.2.1718 Johann Georg, Materialist * in Hitzacker/Dannenberg
Sohn v. Jochen K., Bürger in Hitzacker und der Ida
Plederhauß
1596 Jochim K.
Jochim K. d. Jüngere
28.6.1734 Georg Christoph, Böttcher 24 Jahre,
Sohn v. Martin K. Böttcher allhier, und der Anna
Catharina Rache, er vom Kröcherschen Regiment
7.8.1724 Johann Adam K. Candidat d. Materialien Profession
Sohn v. Johann Heinrich K. Materialist und Schiffer
alhier und der Catharina Reinicke
4.10.1714 Johann Ludwig K. Töpfer
Sohn v. Michael K., Töpfer in Berlin und der Elisabeth
Marx
6.11.1706 Schultze Andreas, Ackersmann
Sohn v. Jacob Schultze, Bauer in Seeburg/Osthavelland
und Elisabeth Krause
29.12.1692 Martin K., Böttcher v. Luckau/Niederlausitz
Sohn v. Nicolaus K., Zimmermann und der Maria .......
16.8.1678 Kreyer, Ernst Sigismund, Glaser, * in Rochlitz/Sachsen
Sohn v. Christoff Kreyer - Stadtschreiber und Cantor und
der Marie Magdalene Krause
30.10.1622 Krause Wentzel, Bäcker in Nauen/Brandenburg
11.8.1624 Krause Marx - keine weiteren Angaben
20.8.1701 Johann Heinrich Krause, Handelsmann,
Sohn v. Henrich KrauseVerwalter in "Raßow", (Rassau b.
Uelzen) und der Ida ......
(Wahrscheinlich identisch mit Hans Krause aus Raso bei
Lüneburg, der am 28.11.1693 Bürger von Cölln/Spree wird.
Herr Johann Krauß, Kauf- u. Handelsmann in Berlin wird am 29.11.1700 in
Spandau St. Nicolai mit Catharina Reinicke Tochter v. Peter
Reinicke, Brauer in Spandau corpuliert).
Die Witte folgen noch, jetzt muß ich erst mal frühstücken.
Viele Grüße Susanne" -- SRE 3 June 2003.
Another:
"Hallo Shon,
hier ist der Nachschlag für Witte:
28.10.1672 Christoff Witte, Müller
Sohn v. Andreaß W., Tagelöhner allhier und Elisabeth
Löwe
1726 Itzholt mit Witte hast Du bereits
9.11.1621 Hans Witte, Tripmacher von "Itzehofe" (Itzehoe)
30.4.1603 Thomas Witte, Schuster von Retzow/Westhavelland
1586 Hans Witte (ohne weiteren Angaben)
Ist im Moment alles, um die Nikolai-Kirche kümmer ich mich noch.
Herzliche Grüße aus dem heißen Spandau
Susanne" -- 4 June 2003.
-- Sent letter to Quedlinburg Stadt- and Kreisarchiv. Both sent me back nice replies, but unfortunately, neither one of them had reocrds from before time I need: From the Kreisarchiv "Sehr geehrter Herr Edwards, ich habe Ihre Anfrage vom 16.06.2003 am 30.06.2003 erhalten und möchten mich für Ihr Interesse bedanken. Leider muss ich Ihnen mitteilen, dass sich in unseren Beständen keine relevanten Unterlagen befinden. Das Kreisarchiv verfügt über keine genealogischen Quellen (Bürgermahlsbücher, Seelenlisten) welche die Stadt Quedlinburg betreffen. Eine Rücksprache mit dem zuständigen Stadtarchiv Quedlinburg ergab leider, dass die dort archivierten Bestände zeitlich nicht so weit zurückgehen. Es tut mir leid, Ihen nicht weiter behilflich sein zu können, Mit freundlichen Grüßen, L.A. Wegner, Mitarbeiterin, Kreisarchiv."
From the Stadtarchiv (phone: 49-3946-905-50; FAX: 49-3946-905-95-00; e-mail: stadt-quedlinburg@t-online.de; www: www.quedlinburg.de. Letter: "Sehr geehrter Herr Edwards, mit bedauern müssen wir Ihnen mitteilen, dass sich in unserem Stadtarchiv leider keine Quellen oder Unterlagen vor dem 16. Jahrhundert befinden. Die Bürgermahlsbücher beginnen erst 1658. Im Jahre 1549 gabe es in der Altstadt Quedlinburgs einen Bürgermeister als zweites Mittel mit dem Namen Hans Witte (Kopie aus dem Buch Geschichte von Quedlinburg, Bd. 2, von Joh. Heinr. Fritsch (1828) ebenso eine Kopie aus "Alt Quedlinburger Honoratiorentum" von Prof. Dr. J. H. Mitgau (1834). Es sind aber keinerlei Daten vorhanden. Wir bedauern sehr, Ihnen nicht helfen zu können. Mit freundlichen Grüßen, I. Fischer (Im Auftrag)."
In the former, there is a Bürgermeiester Hans Witte, 2. Mittel, Quedlinburg Altstadt. In the latter source, the same person is mentioned again on p. ?, only by last name. On p. 123, a Witte is mentioned (who was "Syndikus zu Wernigerode"). This is quite a shot in the dark that we could be related to him directly, but probably are in some way. Disconnect after cleared -- SRE, 28 Jul 2003.
-- I checked with Larry Jensen at work the day before I left for my trip. He said I should check the Minerva handbook of German archives. I did so, and what I found was very interesting. Though the city archive at Quedlinburg said they had no pre-1600 information that would be genealogically relevant, they actually have lists of inhabitants and censuses going back through 1480. So I set up an appointment and will go see them on 26 Sep., 25 Sep 2003, SRE.
-- They do only have Schoßbücher (tax lists) and a house list (sales) from mid- to late-1600's. The wills and other legal stuff is probably in Magdeburg, SRE 26 Sep 2003.
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Relevant Holdings:
Altes Häuserverzeichnis 1480 – 1550
Altes Häuserverzeichnis
City
Quedlinburg
Category
2. Cartularies, registers
Period
1480 – 1550
Archive
Stadtarchiv Quedlinburg
List of recorded volumes
1 Band (225 sheets): 1480 – 1550
Kopialbücher 1400 – 1795
Kopialbücher
City
Quedlinburg
Category
2. Cartularies, registers
Period
1400 – 1795
Archive
Stadtarchiv Quedlinburg
List of recorded volumes
1 Band (276 sheets): 1400–1554
1 Band (262 sheets): 1477–1620
1 Band (98 sheets): 1539–1685
7 volumes: 1573–1707, 1581–1795, 1619 –1722, 1720–1741
Ratsrechnungen, enthält Vogteirechnungen für das Gericht Hoym 1455 – 1470
Ratsrechnungen, enthält Vogteirechnungen für das Gericht Hoym
City
Quedlinburg
Category
10. Account books
Period
1455 – 1470
Archive
Stadtarchiv Quedlinburg
List of recorded volumes
1 Band: 1455–1470
Archival reference code: Ratsrechnungen I
Schoßregister 1534 – 1800
Schoßregister
City
Quedlinburg
Category
8. Tax registers
Period
1534 – 1800
Archive
Stadtarchiv Quedlinburg
List of recorded volumes
1 Band (42 sheets): 1534–1534
1 Band (49 sheets): 1549–1549
161 volumes: 1561–1574, 1585–1639, 1660-1660, 1674–1677, 1695–1800
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