128. Charles EDWARDS was born ¹ on 30 Oct 1783 in York, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. He was christened ¹ on 02 Nov 1783 in Saint Sampson, York, York, England, United Kingdom. He died on 02 May 1857 in Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. Charles was sealed to his parents on 20 Feb 1992 in the Las Vegas Nevada temple. He was baptized on 30 May 1991 in the Las Vegas Nevada temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 30 May 1991 in the Las Vegas Nevada temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Completed in the Las Vegas Nevada temple. He was endowed on 10 Dec 1991 in the Las Vegas Nevada temple. Charles married ² Harriett BURNSIDES on 30 Jan 1804 in St. Sampson, York, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. They were sealed on 26 Oct 1989 in the Idaho Falls Idaho temple.

Charles EDWARDS worked as Shoemaker in from to . [Parents]

All notes and sources for this family come from http://www.airgale.com.au/edwards/d2.htm#i14041.

Listed in Charles's, son's birth record, as a shoemaker, same as in son's John's death record.  See also notes in John Edwards Sr., 1 Jan 2015

129. Harriett BURNSIDES was born on 16 Jan 1786 in York, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. She was christened on 17 Jan 1786 in All Saints Pavement with St Peter the Little, York, Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. She died on 19 Dec 1855 in England, United Kingdom. Harriett was sealed to her parents on 20 Sep 1991 in the St. George Utah temple. She was baptized on 26 Apr 1991 in the St. George Utah temple. She was endowed on 14 Aug 1991 in the St. George Utah temple. [Parents]

BORN:  1785.
-- According to Ian Clapham, one of the Edwards descendants in NZ has her surname as a middle name, SRE, 13 Mar 2014.

130. William JONES was born in Cal 1781 in Carew, Pembrokeshire, Cymru, United Kingdom. He was christened on 09 Apr 1782 in Carew, Pembrokeshire, Cymru, United Kingdom. He died ¹ on 21 May 1853 in Charleston, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Cymru, United Kingdom. He was buried ² on 23 May 1853 in Blackwood, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Cymru, United Kingdom. His sealing to parents was submitted in Submitted. He was baptized on 11 May 2018 in the Ogden Utah temple. He was baptized on 11 May 2018 in the Ogden Utah temple. He was baptized in Submitted. He was endowed in Submitted. William married ³ Elizabeth WILLIAMS on 26 Nov 1803 in St. Mary, Pembroke Dock, Pembrokeshire, Cymru, United Kingdom. They were sealed on Sub 11 Mar 2019.

William JONES worked as Ship builder in from to . William JONES worked as Ship Builder in from to . William JONES worked as collier = coal miner or ship carrying coal, usually 2nd meaning in Charleston, Bedwellty, Monmouthshire, Cymru, United Kingdom from 1853 to . [Parents]

-- Informationtaken from son's, William's death certificate in 1891 in New Zealand, SRE, 22 Mar 2018.
-- Child, William, according to his death certificate, says he was born in Pembroke.  Checked there and cross checked for a Mary born there, but couldn't find any correlation on findmypast, so need to do a manual check, SRE, 12 May 2018.
-- Checked St. Mary parish index in Pembroke for birth of Mary and William to a William.  Nix.  Also checked St. Michael's.  8 Mar 2019, SRE.

131. Elizabeth WILLIAMS was christened ¹ on 08 Feb 1787 in St. Mary, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Cymru, United Kingdom. Elizabeth was sealed to her parents on Sub 11 Mar 2019. She was baptized on Sub 11 Mar 2019. She was endowed on Sub 11 Mar 2019. [Parents]

-- First name gottten from son's birth, SRE, 8 Mar 2019.

132. Thomas GREY ¹ was christened ² on 21 May 1786 in Longbridge Deverill, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom. He was buried ³ on 24 Jul 1827 in Pertwood Parish Church Cemetery, Pertwood, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom. Thomas was baptized on 16 Mar 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 16 Mar 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Completed. He was endowed on 29 Sep 1990 in the Provo Utah temple. Thomas married ^{4, 5} Mary BAKER Twin ¹ on 25 Jan 1809 in St. Denis, Warminster, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom. They were sealed on 05 Aug 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. [Parents]

Another possible Thomas GREY:  Hill Deverill Parish Church, Hill Deverill, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom bap 14 Jan 1787, born 21 Dec 1786.  He is possibly in London in 1851 (see SDFHS research below).  If so, ourperson iss the Longbridge Deverill one was ours, & ours died in Pertwood in 1827.

SDFHS research:

"SDFHS
5:40 AM (2 hours ago)
to me

Hi Shon,

Thank you for your recent emails, sorry for the delay in responding but I only volunteer one day per week.

I have looked through the back copies of the Greenwood Tree, there is an article dated 9-5-2017 entitled Railway workers in Somerset & Dorset however, this mainly concentrates on the Wimborne Dorset area. I did a search for your ancestor on this article, unfortunately it did not provide anything relevant.

We have listed in our online bookshop a publication from the "my ancestor was" series, entitled my ancestor was a railway worker by Frank Hardy. You can find more details on this book via our website under shop / bookshop / other categories.

I cannot find anything further that is specific to John Gray at Saltford in terms of his railway employment or actual job.

I note in your last email you already have details on John Gray from your own research. I have however, set out below what information I found prior to receipt of your email for reference and confirmation only.

John Gray

Baptism 25-12-1818 Pertwood Wiltshire

Marriage 25-12-1840 Bath St James Somerset to Sarah Salmon (1818-1901)

Death 21-3-1886 Saltford Somerset

Burial 27-3-1886 Saltford

John & Sarah's Children (Birth dates)

William 1841,  Alice 1843, Mary Ann 1845, Elizabeth 1849, Harriet 1850, Emily 1852, Lucy 1855 and Albert 1857.

John's parents

Thomas Gray born 21-12-1786 at Hill Deverill Wiltshire who married Mary Baker 25-1-1810 st Denys Wiltshire. I found a 1851 census record for a Thomas Gray as an inmate in the Wandsworth & Clapham Union workhouse, Battersea London. It gives his birth date as 1786 and place of birth as Hill Deverill Wiltshire.

John's Siblings

Charles Gray baptised 2-12-1810 St Denys Warminster, Buried 18-1-1811, St Denys Warminster.

James Gray baptised 19-5-1816 at Pertwood Wiltshire. Married Mary Pike 7-10-1839 at Bath St James Somerset. Buried 9-12-1881 at Newton St Loe Somerset. GRO ref Q4 1881 Keynsham 5c 407

Joseph Gray (Twin brother?) baptised along with John 25-12-1818 at Pertwood

Ann Gray baptised 20-1-1822 at Pertwood

John's Grandparents

James Gray baptised 24-11-1753 at Hill Deverill (father Thomas Gray). Married Grace Turner of Fonthill Gifford Wiltshire 6-6-1786 James was buried at Hill Deverill 5-4-1837 aged 84. Grace was also buried at Hill Deverill 24-9-1829 aged 64.

I am sure the above information will merely confirm your findings. As for costs I could only provide advice on where you may look for further information, this took about an hour so our charge will be £10. You can pay this via our website sdfhs.com / shop / online shop / research fees.

Sorry I could not help further.SDFHS
5:40 AM (2 hours ago)
to me

Hi Shon,

Thank you for your recent emails, sorry for the delay in responding but I only volunteer one day per week.

I have looked through the back copies of the Greenwood Tree, there is an article dated 9-5-2017 entitled Railway workers in Somerset & Dorset however, this mainly concentrates on the Wimborne Dorset area. I did a search for your ancestor on this article, unfortunately it did not provide anything relevant.

We have listed in our online bookshop a publication from the "my ancestor was" series, entitled my ancestor was a railway worker by Frank Hardy. You can find more details on this book via our website under shop / bookshop / other categories.

I cannot find anything further that is specific to John Gray at Saltford in terms of his railway employment or actual job.

I note in your last email you already have details on John Gray from your own research. I have however, set out below what information I found prior to receipt of your email for reference and confirmation only.

John Gray

Baptism 25-12-1818 Pertwood Wiltshire

Marriage 25-12-1840 Bath St James Somerset to Sarah Salmon (1818-1901)

Death 21-3-1886 Saltford Somerset

Burial 27-3-1886 Saltford

John & Sarah's Children (Birth dates)

William 1841,  Alice 1843, Mary Ann 1845, Elizabeth 1849, Harriet 1850, Emily 1852, Lucy 1855 and Albert 1857.

John's parents

Thomas Gray born 21-12-1786 at Hill Deverill Wiltshire who married Mary Baker 25-1-1810 st Denys Wiltshire. I found a 1851 census record for a Thomas Gray as an inmate in the Wandsworth & Clapham Union workhouse, Battersea London. It gives his birth date as 1786 and place of birth as Hill Deverill Wiltshire.

John's Siblings

Charles Gray baptised 2-12-1810 St Denys Warminster, Buried 18-1-1811, St Denys Warminster.

James Gray baptised 19-5-1816 at Pertwood Wiltshire. Married Mary Pike 7-10-1839 at Bath St James Somerset. Buried 9-12-1881 at Newton St Loe Somerset. GRO ref Q4 1881 Keynsham 5c 407

Joseph Gray (Twin brother?) baptised along with John 25-12-1818 at Pertwood

Ann Gray baptised 20-1-1822 at Pertwood

John's Grandparents

James Gray baptised 24-11-1753 at Hill Deverill (father Thomas Gray). Married Grace Turner of Fonthill Gifford Wiltshire 6-6-1786 James was buried at Hill Deverill 5-4-1837 aged 84. Grace was also buried at Hill Deverill 24-9-1829 aged 64.

I am sure the above information will merely confirm your findings. As for costs I could only provide advice on where you may look for further information, this took about an hour so our charge will be £10. You can pay this via our website sdfhs.com / shop / online shop / research fees.

Sorry I could not help further."

NEW IDEAS FROM BYU GENEALOGICAL CONFERNCE, 5 Aug 2004:
-- USE POOR LAW RECORDS.  These usually have information on everyone in the parish.  This might especially be true in a place where one parent dies, then another -- hopefully we can find something.
-- Write to record offices first.  They have sources and indexes, especially new ones, that we don't have here.
-- Put an ad in the Somerset and  Dorset FHS magazine to find someone who knows something about people who worked on the railroad on the Bath line, which was John Grey's occupation.
-- Also, in the same ad, see if it's possible to find an obituary for John, who died in Saltford in March of 1886.
-- Search everything, since you will never know what you will find.

NOTE:  There are notes in this entry referring to E. and W. Knoyle records not being avail in SLC.  They are.  It is actually E. and W. Tisbury that are not!

BIRTH NOTES:  Born between 25 Jul 1786 and 23 Jul 1788 approximately (from of calculated birth from death date).

OCCUPATIONS/JOBS:  Labourer

R E S E A R C H    L O G

DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION/IDEAS:
-- Those married in Pertwood who originated in other parishes came chiefly from Longbridge Deverill and East Knoyle.  People who had children baptized there lived at Wincanton (Somerset), Frome (Somerset), Longbridge Deverill, Heytesbury, Mon(c)kton Deverill, and Brixton Deverill.  Check possible migration patterns.

IDEAS/SOURCES CHECKED:

-- I went to Pertwood in Jun 1988.  Some new owners had just moved in.  They said many of the residents in years passed had written their names on a barn door, along with his or her corresponding place and date of birth.  A check of this yielded negative results.  The older man told us that there was also a window frame inside the main house that people signed, with the same purpose and information as the door, but that it was such a mess now in that room, as they were just moving in, he wouldn't let us in to see it at the time.  In May 1994, I went back again; the same people lived there, but the woman denied there being any window frame with names on it.  This may be just a ruse and it might be worth checking later.

WRITE NAME OF THE PERTWOOD PEOPLE IN THIS SPACE ABOVE!

SOURCES TO SEARCH:

-- Look in Mere, West Knoyle, and East Knoyle.  The GRAY's are most populous in this particular area, and we have at least a small tie to East Knoyle (this person's child died in 1835 after the death of both of his parents at the age of 17; he was from the parish of EAST KNOYLE at the time of death).

IS EAST KNOYLE THE ONE WE DON'T HAVE PARISH RECORDS FOR?!  CHECK HERE FOR MARY AND THOMAS GRAY'S MARRIAGE, THEIR BIRTHS.  THIS IS PROBABLY WHERE THEY CAME FROM.

-- On birth:  Checked 30 surrounding parishes to find any Thomas GRAY's born: GIVE LIST.

-- On marriage:  Check for marriage records in the area which show a Thomas GRAY from Hill Deverill marrying a Mary at just about the right time.  Children's death records are not not good.  They are not supposed to have parents' names. Am checking for marriage records now (10/95), but may have missed a few possible years (1800-1805), although did also check much of this.  I'm not sure, but this maybe should be checked again, both with PRs and BTs.  Looked many parishes in the surrounding area, nix.  The records searched are:

RECORDS SEARCHED FOR MARRIAGE:

Bishop's Transcripts:  Hilperton, Codford St. Mary, Boyton, Hill Deverill, Brixton Deverill, Hindon, Trowbridge, and Sedgehill.

Marriage Parish Register Extracts:  Monkton Deverill, Sherrington, and Boyton.

Parish Registers:  Little Cheverill, Westbury, Warminster (all), Bishopstrow, Heytesbury, Knook (missing 1809-1813), Upton Lovell, Codford St. Peter, Stockton, Chilmark, Fonthill Bishop, East Tisbury, West Tisbury, Alvediston, Berwick St. John, Berwick St. Leonard, Fonthill Gifford, Hindon, Chicklade, Horningsham, Maiden Bradley, Kilmington, Stourton, Mere, Kingston Deverill, Brixton Deverill, Hill Deverill, Longbridge Deverill, Sutton Veny, East Knoyle, Mon(c)kton Deverill (missing years 1813-1816).  Also Wylye, Codford St. Mary, Alvediston, (these ones not drawn on map, but checked off on list). Also possibly Sedgehill.

Independent Churches:

Other Misc:  (including Bishop's Transcripts):  Hilperton, Boyton, Codford St. Mary, Sherrington, and Sedgehill.

Though East and West Knoyle, 2 parishes extremely close to Pertwood aren't available in SLC.  I know the records exist, because I looked at them in in a catalog in the Wiltshire County Records Office in Trowbridge.  These two parishes need to be checked for Thomas Gray and Mary.  I wonder if it may be the wrong couple there.

-- Look for a family bible.  Since James was older than John, perhaps it would be in James' family in England.  Try to find the descendants of James there.  It would be tough.

-- Did this family have any other children anywhere else?  This might be a worthy check, though IGI parent checks in 1995 yielded nothing.  Filter to Wiltshire, Dorset, and Somerset especially.  They seem old enough to have been married even as early as 1806.  She seems to be six years his senior.  These ages were calculated from burial dates, though hers was obviously messed up (see her notes).  It may be necessary to make a more careful check. Check marriage 1806-1816, at least.

-- The kids would have been, at the oldest, 16, 14, 14, and 9 years old, at their last parent's death.  They would all have been juveniles.  In England, there were likely no guardian records; they probably just went to a relative and lived there.  Possibilities would be grandparents, uncles or aunts.  Later on, James and John end up in Newton St. Loe and Corston, Somerset, respectively.  This might be an indication that the entire family was in this area of Somerset.  Also, John's possible "twin," Joseph, died in East Knoyle, Wilts, in 1835.  They may have all lived with a relative in East Knoyle.  If so, the only record of them there might be marriage records.  Since the couple was usually married in the woman's parish, Ann might be the only one married in West Knoyle.  If the 1881 ever gets computerized and Ann ever lived long enough, she might be found there.  Her two surviving brothers seemed to live to a good old age.  Other church records besides marriage would not be available to us.

-- See if someone you know can go check in Trowbridge on this Thomas GRAY's marriage to Mary in some of the parishes we don't have access to here.  Maybe Susan Paul in Westbury could do that.  If not, it may be possible to have Headley Burridge do it (that may be even closer, since he is right there in Trowbridge).  Have them check Zeals, East Knoyle, West Knoyle, and Mere.  Under MOVING PATTERNS, also see note that starts, "In order to get..."

LINKS:
-- There is one other Thomas GRAY born in the vicinity in another parish, but he didn't fall within the range of the calculated birthdate, as this one did. He could still be the one also.  This link not 100% sure, but of the thirty surrounding parishes, the only Thomas GREY found who was born exactly within the correct time period (calculated from death age), came from Hill Deverill parish.  There is one other parish, even closer to Pertwood, with many GREY's, Berwick St. Leonard's, but records are poor there, and I may have missed somthing or the years themselves may have been missing.  The records of these 30 parishes were original Wiltshire County parish records from County Records Office, Trowbridge, Wiltshire.  Towns searched for his birth were:

TOWNS SEARCHED FOR BIRTH/MARRIAGE:

Pertwood, Chicklade, Hindon, West Knoyle (2), E. Knoyle, Tisbury (Grays), Salisbury St. Edmund (no Grays), Warminster St. Denys, Warminster, Bishopstrow, Norton Bavant, Mere (Grays), Sutton Veny, Longbridge Deverill (Thomas, son of Edwards and Susannah Gray, born 21 May 1786 - this one is slightly off, i.e. about 1 mo. outside of possible calcualted range - could be good) (no marriages found), Hill Deverill (Grays) (Thomas born of James and Grace Gray b. 21 Dec 1786) and Chr 8 Jul 1787) (no existing marriage records 1812-1818), Brixton Deverill, Kingston Deverill, Mon(c)kton Deverill, Berwick St. Leonard, Berwick St. James, Fonthill Gifford (Grays) ( marriages only), Boyton, Heytesbury (marriages only), Sherrington (no Grays), Stockton (no Grays), Chilmark (book, not microfiche, not listed, go to original records), Zeals (Mere) (after 1840), Sedgehill (no Grays).

-- Found his supposed marriage on the IGI.  This needs to be verified in the records.  It seems likely, since it is probably the only Thomas GRAY married to a Mary in the area and at the right time (The rest of Warminster was NOT checked; this was just found on IGI).  Only problem is her birth compared to the known info for this man's actual wife.  See her notes for the confusing story on her birthdate.

MOVING PATTERNS/IDEAS:
-- One other parish to check and I'm not sure if it has been checked yet, that is just full of Grey's is possibly Mere.  Just double-check.  I am still fairly confident that this is our line, however.  12 (microfiche?) pp of Grey's in Wiltshire census 1881, 8 from Dorset, 4.5? from Somerset.

-- In order to get an idea of where the GREY/GRAY names come from and to do work for them, I have extracted all of them from the 1851 census for southwest Wilts, part of north Dorset, and part of east Somerset.  The line I have extracted from in Wilts is pretty much as follows:  A line running from the northern borders of Corsely and Upton Scudamore eastward (excluding Edington, including Imber and Chittern), southward at Chitterne, eastward again at Fisherton de la Mere (excluding Waddington and Winterbourne Stoke), from there southward including Berwick St. James and Stapleford, excluding Wilsford, Woodford, Bemerton, Salisbury, (but INcluding Netherhampton), Stratford Tony, Martin, and Damerham, but inclusing all portions of sw Wilts. within those boundaries.  In Dorset, I extracted all parishes from Bourton on the north, going southeast to Ashmore along and everything in between near the border only (i.e., excluding East Stour, Stour Provost, Todber, Buckhorn Weston, Kington Magna, etc.).  In the southern part of that area only did I check parishes not bordering Wilts., namely Compton Abbas, Fontmell Magna, Sutton Waldron, Iverne Minster, East Orchard, Margaret Marsh, Farningham?, and West Orchard.  In Somerset, I checked parishes of Wincanton, Bruton, Pitcombe, Shepton Mantague, North Cheriton, Maperton, Corston, Saltford, and Stanton Prior.  In all of this area, the greatest concentration of GRAY's was in the Mere area.  East and West Knoyle are right there, too.  There is a good possibility that our Thomas GRAY and Mary could have been married right there in East Knoyle.  Besides Mere, the next-highest concentration of GRAY's is in Hill Deverill, Longbridge Deverill, West Knoyle, followed then by Ansty and Great Wishford.  Also have extracted from 1871 CENSUS West Knoyle, and from 1841 CENSUS:  Heytesbury, Hill Deverill, East Knoyle, and Fonthill Gifford.

SOURCES AVAILABLE:
-- Other FHLC notes on Pertwood are:  Taxation:  Land tax assessments in
Pertwood 1773-1876, FHL 1,278,868:20.  Church records 1840-1918 (marriages) FHL 1,239,329:31 (check just in case Gray's were md. here) and baptisms 1813-1923 on FHL 1,526,667:8.  These are parish registers.  BTs are probably the ones you've seen on FHL 1,279,419:6-10, including baptisms, marriages, burials 1608-1631, 1718-1728, 1787-1842; baptisms and burials 1843-1880.  It is possible, I suppose, that our Thomas was actually born here in Pertwood instead of at Hill Deverill, since he would have been born 1786 or 1787 and information for 1786 in Pertwood is non-existent.  (NOTE:  Is this BTs or parish registers?  I believe we have both of them now in SLC).

BELOW HERE IS ANOTHER VERSION OF HIS NOTES.  IT SHOULD BE COMPARED WITH ALL INFORMATION ABOVE THIS POINT TO GET THE EXTRA INFORMATION IN IT THAT IS DEFINITELY IN IT.

BIRTH NOTES:  Born between 25 Jul 1786 and 23 Jul 1788 approximately (from of calculated birth from death date).

OCCUPATIONS/JOBS:  Labourer

R E S E A R C H    L O G

DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION/IDEAS:
-- Those married in Pertwood from other parishes came chiefly from Longbridge Deverill and East Knoyle.  People who had children baptized there lived at Wincanton (Somerset), Frome (Somerset), Longbridge Deverill, Heytesbury, Mon(c)kton Deverill, and Brixton Deverill.  This may be a clue to general moving patterns - Shon R. Edwards.

IDEAS/SOURCES CHECKED:
SOURCES TO SEARCH:  Look in Mere, West Knoyle, and East Knoyle.  The GRAY's are most populous in this particular area, and we have at least a small tie to East Knoyle (This person's child died in 1835 after the death of both parents and at the age of 17; he was living at East Knoyle at the time).

-- On birth:  Checked 30 surrounding parishes to find any Thomas GRAY's born:  GIVE LIST.

-- On marriage:  Check for marriage records in the area which show a Thomas Gray from Hill Deverill marrying a Mary at just about the right time.  Children's death records are useless.  They are not supposed to have parents' names. Am checking for marriage records now (10/95), but may have missed a few possible years (1800-1805), although did also check much of this.  I'm not sure, but this maybe should be checked again, both with PRs and BTs.  Looked about 35 parishes surrounding, nix.  Though East and West Knoyle, 2 parishes extremely close to Pertwood aren't available in SLC (Also, extremely important about this particular fact, is that one of this person's children lived in East Knoyle at the time of his death while a young boy, not long after the death of his parents.).  I know the records exist, because I looked at them in Wiltshire.  These two need to be checked for Thomas Gray and Mary

-- Look for a family bible.  Since James was older than John, perhaps it would be in James' family in England.  Try to find the descendants of James there.  It would be tough - Shon R. Edwards.

-- Did this family have any other children anywhere else?  This might be a worthy check, though IGI parent checks in 1995 yielded nothing.  Filter to Wiltshire, Dorset, and Somerset especially.  They seem old enough to have been married even as early as 1806.  She seems to be six years his senior.  These ages were calculated from burial dates, though hers was obviously messed up (see her notes).  It may be necessary to make a more careful check. Check marriage 1806-1816, at least - Shon R. Edwards.

-- The kids would have been, at the oldest, 16, 14, 14, and 9 years old, at their last parent's death.  They would all have been juveniles.  In England, there were likely no guardian records; they probably just went to a relative and lived there.  Possibilities would be grandparents, uncles or aunts.  Later on, James and John end up in Newton St. Loe and Corston, Somerset, respectively.  This might be an indication that the entire family was in this area of Somerset.  Also, John's possible "twin," Joseph, died in East Knoyle, Wilts, in 1835.  They may have all lived with a relative in East Knoyle.  If so, the only record of them there might be marriage records.  Since the couple was usually married in the woman's parish, Ann might be the only one married in West Knoyle.  If the 1881 ever gets computerized and Ann ever lived long enough, she might be found there.  Her two surviving brothers seemed to live to a good old age.  Other church records besides marriage would not be available to us - Shon R. Edwards.
N.B. - Searched 1881 census on computer, didn't find any Ann in England born in Pertwood - SRE, 2000?

-- See if someone you know can go check in Trowbridge on this Thomas GRAY's marriage to Mary in some of the parishes we don't have access to here.  Maybe Susan Paul in Westbury could do that.  If not, it may be possible to have Headley Burridge do it (that may be even closer, since he is right there in Trowbridge).  Have them check Zeals, East Knoyle, West Knoyle, and Mere.  Under MOVING PATTERNS, also see note that starts, "In order to get..." - Shon R. Edwards.

LINKS:
-- There is one other Thomas GRAY born in the vicinity in another parish, but he didn't fall within the range of the calculated birthdate, as this one did. He could still be the one also.  This link not 100% sure, but of the thirty surrounding parishes, the only Thomas GREY found who was born exactly within the correct time period (calculated from death age), came from Hill Deverill parish.  There is one other parish, even closer to Pertwood, with many GREY's, Berwick St. Leonard's, but records are poor there, and I may have missed somthing or the years themselves may have been missing.  The records of these 30 parishes were original Wiltshire County parish records from County Records Office, Trowbridge, Wiltshire.  There was only one other Thomas GREY in these surrounding 30 parishes who even came close to the right age, being one year off.  The parishes which were searched were:

PARISHES SEARCHED FOR BIRTH/MARRIAGE:

Pertwood, Chicklade, Hindon, West Knoyle (2), East Knoyle, Tisbury (Grays), Salisbury St. Edmund (no Grays), Warminster St. Denys, Warminster St., Bishopstrow, Norton Bavant, Mere (Grays), Sutton Veny, Longbridge Deverill (Thomas, son of Edward and Susannah Gray b. 21 May 1786, just 1 mo. outside of calculated birth age from death - very possible it's correct), Hill Deverill (Grays) (Thomas, son of James and Grace Gray, b. 21 Dec. 1786), Brixton Deverill, Kingston Deverill, Mon(c)kton Deverill, Berwick St. Leonard (marriages only, but 1813-1815 missing) (lots of Grays, so good possibility), Berwick St. James (marriages only) (no Grays), Fonthill Gifford (Grays) (marriages only), Boyton, Heytesbury (marriages only), Sherrington (no Grays), Stockton (no Grays), Chilmark (not listed, go to original records, book not on microfiche (not sure if this was actually checked in Wiltshire Records Office), Zeals (Mere) (after 1840), Sedgehill (no Grays), Upton Scudamore (go to original records, book not on microfiche (not sure if this was actually checked in Wiltshire Records Office), Corsley.  NOTE THAT BERWICK ST: LOENARD BTS AND PARISH RECORDS ARE NOW AVAILABLE IN SALT LAKE.

-- Found his supposed marriage on the IGI.  This needs to be verified in the records.  It seems likely, since it is probably the only Thomas GRAY married to a Mary in the area and at the right time (The rest of Warminster was NOT checked; this was just found on IGI).  Only problem is her birth compared to the known info for this man's actual wife.  See her notes for the confusing story on her birthdate Shon R. Edwards.

MOVING PATTERNS/IDEAS:
One other parish to check and I'm not sure if it has been checked yet, that is just full of Grey's is possibly Mere.  Just double-check.  I am still fairly confident that this is our line, however.  12 (microfiche?) pp of Grey's in Wiltshire census 1881, 8 from Dorset, 4.5? from Somerset - Shon R. Edwards.

-- In order to get an idea of where the GREY/GRAY names come from, I have extracted all of them from the 1851 census for southwest Wilts, part of north Dorset, and part of east Somerset.  The line I have extracted from in Wilts is pretty much as follows:  A line running from the northern borders of Corsely and Upton Scudamore eastward (excluding Edington, including Imber and Chittern), southward at Chitterne, eastward again at Fisherton de la Mere (excluding Waddington and Winterbourne Stoke), from there southward including Berwick St. James and Stapleford, excluding Wilsford, Woodford, Bemerton, Salisbury, (but including Netherhampton), Stratford Tony, Martin, and Damerham, but including all portions of s.w. Wilts. within those boundaries.  In Dorset, I extracted all parishes from Bourton on the north, going southeast to Ashmore along and everything in between near the border only (i.e., excluding East Stour, Stour Provost, Todber, Buckhorn Weston, Kington Magna, etc.).  In the southern part of that area only did I check parishes not bordering Wilts., namely Compton Abbas, Fontmell Magna, Sutton Waldron, Iverne Minster, East Orchard, Margaret Marsh, Farningham?, and West Orchard.  In Somerset, I checked parishes of Wincanton, Bruton, Pitcombe, Shepton Mantague, North Cheriton, Maperton, Corston, Saltford, and Stanton Prior.  In all of this area, the greatest concentration of GRAY's was in the Mere area.  East and West Knoyle are right there, too.  There is a good possibility that our Thomas GRAY and Mary could have been married right there in East Knoyle.  Besides Mere, the next-highest concentration of GRAY's is in Hill Deverill, Longbridge Deverill, West Knoyle, followed then by Ansty and Great Wishford - Shon R. Edwards, 1988?

SOURCES AVAILABLE:
-- Other FHLC notes on Pertwood are:  Taxation:  Land tax assessments in
Pertwood 1773-1876, FHL 1,278,868:20.  Church records 1840-1918 (marriages) FHL 1,239,329:31 (check just in case Gray's were md. here) and baptisms 1813-1923 on FHL 1,526,667:8.  These are parish registers.  BTs are probably the ones you've seen on FHL 1,279,419:6-10, including baptisms, marriages, burials 1608-1631, 1718-1728, 1787-1842; baptisms and burials 1843-1880.  It is possible, I suppose, that our Thomas was actually born here in Pertwood instead of at Hill Deverill, since he would have been born 1786 or 1787 and information for 1786 in Pertwood is non-existent.  (NOTE:  Is this BTs or parish registers?  I believe we have both of them now in SLC - SRE) - Shon R. Edwards.

133. Mary BAKER Twin ¹ was christened ^{2, 3} on 27 Jul 1785 in St. Denis, Warminster, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom. She was buried ⁴ on 08 Jul 1831/2 in Pertwood Parish Church Cemetery, Pertwood, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom. Mary was sealed to her parents on 09 Jul 1996 in the Provo Utah temple. She was baptized on 16 Mar 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 16 Mar 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Completed. She was endowed on 08 Aug 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. [Parents]

New rec of Mary chr 1785 in St, Denis from findmypast.com.  Parents are Henry & Anne Baker.  https://www.findmypast.com/transcript?id=PRS/WILT/BAPS/BH/1172247&omk=362c0581f5eae23947c2778857513fbc-3bf5c4d1cb50099af451399bb697ddaf&utm_source=fmp&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=RELATED-RECORDS&utm_content=US+RELATEDRECORDS+RELATEDRECORDS&utm_term=404053432&M_BT=181729858340251.  Wrong one is probably MB chr 4 Mar 1781 in Stourton to James Baker & Mary Owen, SRE, 07 May 2022.

SEE RECORD IN MISC FILE FOR MARY BAKER.

Old date:  Cal 1780/1781.  Stourton birth found in www.findmypast.com, SRE, 15 July 2019.

R E S E A R C H    L O G

CONFLICTING INFORMATION:

-- This might be the same one who died in Pertwood.  Our Mary's birth calculated from death is 1780/1781.  This one christened about 1785, so although could be ours (by reason of her being christened 4-5 years after birth), the vicar seemed to list the age of children christened quite a while after birth.

-- Death/Calculated Birth Information:  In burial information, the vicar wrote down death date as 8 Jul 1851, even though her death is listed, I believe, BETWEEN a person who died in 1830 and one who died in 1833.  Listed as 51 years old at death.  The most likely scenario is that the '1851' was probably a mix-up between her death age (1851) and the actual year (1831 or 2).  The burial would most likely have to have been either 1831 or 1832, but double-check the years.

-- Do we have the right Mary?  A Mary TUDGAY md a Thomas GREY at Bishopstone. By Salisbury, Wilts, SS:  13 Mar 1980 LANGE, extracted.  Another promising marriage is Mary BAKER  to Thomas GRAY in Saint Denys, Warminster, Wilts, England, done 10 Feb 1994 BOISE (no info on submitter).  Try AF for this person.  If can connect with them, this would be excellent.  Mary BAKER was born 27 Jul 1785 in St. Denys, Warminster, Wiltshire, England.

-- Big difference in supposed birth in Warminster ('85) & reported age at death ('80-81).  However, it would put a slightly more reasonable age difference down between her and her husband.

-- Who was supposed to be the informant at her death with her husband dead already, to report age?  If her children or some other non-family member, they almost certainly estimated wrong.

SOURCES SEARCHED:

-- Searched 40 parishes near Pertwood to find any Thomas GREY/GRAY's married to a Mary, and this Mary BAKER is the only one I could come up with.

-- To link the Mary BAKER married to a Thomas GRAY in this parish to a child born in the same parish, I tried to determine if there were any Mary BAKER's born in this parish.  I checked the parish fairly carfully, and found one.  As far as other BAKER families in the St. Denys parish, there were several, but none with a daughter Mary born between the years 1775 and 1795 (checked BTs), so this would be the only one, at least, that I could find.  There was one year not found on the BTs - 1778 - but the year WAS found on the PR transcripts, so I was able to cover the entire period.  The 27 Jul 1785 date is the christening date of the person I found, the only Mary BAKER born in this parish during this time, so the person born here is probably the same one that got married in the parish later on.  Work for this particular Mary was done 1994 Boise. Submitted by member (not listed who, though).

-- Ruling out the impossible:  I wanted to see if perhaps the Mary BAKER and Thomas GRAY married in St. Denys parish in Warminster had children after 1815 (which would be during the time that our Thomas and Mary were already having children in Pertwood).  If so, I could rule out this couple as the likely possibility.
RESULTS:  Checked 1815 and after in St. Denys.  Couldn't find any children in specified time period.

134. John SALMON [scrapbook] ^{1, 2} was born ³ on 15 May 1785 in Corston, Somerset, England, United Kingdom. He died on 11 Jun 1832 in Corston, Somerset, England, United Kingdom. He was buried ^{3, 4} on 15 Jun 1832 in Corston, Somerset, England, United Kingdom. His sealing to parents was completed. He was baptized on 16 Mar 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. He was baptized in Completed. He was baptized in Completed. He was endowed on 03 Jun 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. John married ^{5, 6} Flower THOMAS ¹ on 26 Jan 1817 in St. Michael, Bath, Somerset, England, United Kingdom. They were sealed on 05 Aug 1989 in the Provo Utah temple.

John SALMON worked as Mason in from to . [Parents]

R E S E A R C H   L O G

IDEAS:
-- No other John SALMON was listed as christened in the Corston parish records within 20 years either side of this person, so, although not connected for a 100% certainty with record of a headstone (i.e., with other relatives buried with him), it seems fairly certain this is the person.

135. Flower THOMAS ¹ was christened ² on 22 Jul 1792 in Corston, Somerset, England, United Kingdom. Flower was sealed to her parents on 24 Mar 1992 in the Provo Utah temple. She was baptized on 16 Mar 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. She was endowed on 05 Aug 1989 in the Provo Utah temple. [Parents]

R E S E A R C H    L O G

IDEAS:
-- Two Flower THOMASs were born at about the same time in Corston parish, but this is the correct one with the correct parents because she is listed as being a widow, Flower SALMON, and living with one of her sisters, Mary THOMAS (unmarried), in the 1851 Census for Corston.  In the other SALMON family, I found no Mary as a sister.  In addition, the other Flower THOMAS would have only been 16 when her first child was christened, which is not as likely as this one, who would have been 25.

CONFLICT (minor):
-- Interestingly, Mary's age in the 1851 census is reported as either 51 or 56, putting her actual age off by either 14 years or nine years (her birth year is 1786).

COINCIDENCE (possibly need to merge another family with this one):
-- A Flower THOMAS in the misc PAF file has a husband, Mr. SALMON, and three kids, all about the same ages and same names as ours, so it could be that these are the same people, that those belong to us or vice-versa - probably more likely that they belong to us.  The child of the other Flower SALMON is a Mason.  The husband of this one is a Mason, so it is perhaps a bit more likely that it is ours (although, it is possible that the trade goes all through the family).  However, I think it is too much of a coincidance that the other Flower married a SALMON and had kids born with the same names and at the same time as our Flower.

136. Benjamin FRANKLIN ¹ was born on 22 Jan 1791 in St. Marylebone, London, England, United Kingdom. He was christened on 03 Feb 1791 in Holy Trinity, St. Marylebone, London, England, United Kingdom. He died about 1833. Benjamin was sealed to his parents on 17 Feb 1977 in the Provo Utah temple. He was baptized on 12 Nov 1976 in the Provo Utah temple. He was endowed on 19 Jan 1977 in the Provo Utah temple. Benjamin married Mary Ann GODSALL ¹ on 29 Jun 1823 in St. James, Paddington, London, England, United Kingdom. They were sealed on 21 Sep 1984 in the Ogden Utah temple. [Parents]

137. Mary Ann GODSALL [scrapbook] ¹ was born on 15 Jun 1803 in St. Marylebone, London, England, United Kingdom. She was christened on 10 Jul 1803 in Holy Trinity, St. Marylebone, London, England, United Kingdom. She died on 03 Aug 1875 in Greymouth, Westland, New Zealand. She was buried in Karoro cemetery Greymouth, New Zealand. Mary was sealed to her parents on 27 Jan 1977 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. She was baptized on 13 Aug 1976 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. She was endowed on 19 Oct 1976 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. [Parents]

138. John HURREN ¹ was born on 17 Dec 1793 in Kelsale, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom. He was christened on 23 Dec 1793 in Kelsale, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom. He died in 1836 in Kelsale, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom. John was sealed to his parents on 08 Apr 1969 in the Logan Utah temple. He was baptized on 06 Feb 1917. He was endowed on 13 Jun 1924. John married Elizabeth SEAMAN ¹ on 31 Oct 1814 in Kelsale or Saxmundham, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom. They were sealed on 27 Feb 1985 in the Salt Lake Utah temple.

John HURREN had his LDS Confirmation on 06 Feb 1917. John HURREN had his LDS Initiatory on 13 Jun 1924. [Parents]

139. Elizabeth SEAMAN [scrapbook] ¹ was born on 05 Aug 1790 in Rendham, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom. She was christened on 29 Nov 1790 in Rendham, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom. She died about 1847 in of, Kelsale, Suffolk, England, United Kingdom. Elizabeth was sealed to her parents on Sub 11 Nov 2008. She was baptized on 06 Feb 1917. She was endowed on 11 Sep 1918. [Parents]

140. Thor GUNDERSEN ¹ was born in Cal 1799 in Norge. Thor was sealed to his parents on 07 Sep 1996 in the Provo Utah temple. He was baptized on 26 Oct 1990 in the Provo Utah temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 26 Oct 1990 in the Provo Utah temple. He received his initiatory on 06 Dec 1996 in the Provo Utah temple. He was endowed on 31 Oct 1990 in the Provo Utah temple. Thor married Emilie Caroline RØDEL ¹ on 01 Jul 1836 in Tårnborg, Sorø, Danmark. They were sealed on 20 Oct 1984 in the Apia Samoa temple. [Parents]

-- Is there any way at all to find out if he came here from Norway?  There are Pasprotokol records under FHLC - Denmark, Soro, Slagelse - Emigration and immigration:

-- Also, check his son, Gunder Heinrich GUNDERSEN's records in New Zealand.  There might be something giving his history.  Gunder's picture is already in a book and there might be more on him.  Check archives, histories, funeral  Transcripts, obituaries, funeral home records, other books.
-- Other ideas:
-- Check them in military records, Odense Koebstad Skt. Hans Laegsruller 48, 49, 50, and Taarnborg and Slagelse earlier life.  Find other kids in censuses and parish records.  Look for kids and parent in differernt towns for Laegsruller.
-- Checked entire Norway census 1801.  Didn't find any kid with mother whose name was Thora.  Did find one (he was born 1798) whose mother's name was Tharan.  He was from Telemark, Sannikedal, Strand, census film 6,200,745, L-03#44.  Sex unknown. Also, a person who was with grandparents, no parents listed, enumerated in Buskerud, Nordrehough (Nordrehov), Schotland, FHL 6,200,774, K-03#30.  Grandparents were extremely old (70's and 80's).
-- Check to see in IGI if Tharan is Thora also.
-- Checked Taarnborg, Norre Lyndelse for Thor's military records, found nothing. Still need to check Odense, Skt. Hans and Slagelse.
-- Searched test version of IGI 22 Jul 2002, but didn't find anything -- SRE, 23 Jul 2002.
-- Search performed by Dee Ann Larsen in May 2006 on DDD at ddd.dda.dk/ yielded:
Samtlige personer i husstanden
Odense, Aasum, Nørre Lyndelse, Dømmestrup, , , 95, FT-1840
Der vises flg. felter:
Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
Peder Hansen, 63 , Gift, , snedker,
Ane Rasmusdatter, 75 , Gift, , hans kone,
Mariane Granandatter, 17 , Ugift, , tjenestepige,
Thor Gundersen, 39 , Gift, , gartner,
Karoline Rudal, 29 , Gift, , hans kone,
Henrik Gundersen, 5 , Ugift, , barn,
Thora Gundersen, 3 , Ugift, , barn,
Mariane Gundersen, 1 , Ugift, , barn,
Kilde: FT-1840 Kildehenvisning: 81
Navn: Thor Gundersen
Alder: 39 Civilstand: Gift
Erhverv: gartner
Sogn: Nørre Lyndelse Herred: Aasum
Amt: Odense Stednavn: Dømmestrup
Husstands-/familienr: 95 Matr.nr/adresse: et hus
Antal familier/hus: 2
Indtastningsnr: C7103 Løbenr.: 617

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# Samtlige personer i husstanden
# odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kiøbstad, , , , FT-1850
# Der vises flg. felter:
# Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
# Thor Gundersen, 51 , Gift, , gartner, Norge
# Emilie født Rode, 39 , Gift, , hans kone, Kjøbenhavn
# Gunder Gundersen, 15 , Ugift, , deres søn, Slagelse
# Theresa Gundersen, 13 , Ugift, , deres datter, Korsøer
# Mariane Gundersen, 11 , Ugift, , " [deres datter], Søbysøgaard
# Emilie Gundersen, 8 , Ugift, , " [deres datter], Odense
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# Kilde: FT-1850Kildehenvisning: 266
# Navn: Thor Gundersen
# Alder: 51Civilstand: Gift
# Erhverv: gartner
# Fødested: Norge
# Sogn: Odense KøbstadHerred: Odense
# Amt: OdenseStednavn: Odense Kiøbstad
# Matr.nr/adresse : Frue Kirkestræde no 709
# Antal familier/hus: 1
# Indtastningsnr: B5984Løbenr.: 9342

FROM WIKIPEDIA, http://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceland:  "In 1262 , Iceland became part of Norway . In 1814 it became part of Denmark . In the 19th century , many Icelanders wanted to be independent from Denmark. In 1918 , Iceland got many powers of its own, but the king of Denmark was still king of Iceland.".
FROM THIS, WE KNOW THAT IN 1801 WHEN THOR WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN BORN, ICELAND WAS PART OF NORWAY.  ALSO, FROM 1814 ON, IT WAS PART OF DENMARK.  COULD THIS BE WHY IT WAS SO EASY FOR HIM TO HAVE SHOWN UP IN DENMARK RECORDS, AND YET NOT APPEAR IN THE 1801 CENSUS OF NORWAY?

-- Searched all Thora, Thore, Tora, and Tore with only two results having a husband Gunder or Gunner, or anything close to it in the 1801 Norway online census:  https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/search/1801?fornavn=Tore&etternavn=&kjonn=k&familiestilling=&sivilstand=Gift&yrke=&fodselsaar=&alder=&ny_husholdning=&merknader=&bosted=&bydel=&gaardsnummer=&sort=rel.  The one from Krødsherad parish has been proven wrong.  Check Strand parish, Rogaland fylke (county) to see if you can find a Thor son born just after the census.  Check first in bygdebøkene, 948.31/S4 D2a v. 1+3, Strand sokn, Rogaland fylke, gård Helmigstøel, SRE, 3 Feb 2019.

141. Emilie Caroline RØDEL ¹ was born on 06 Mar 1812 in Skt. Petri, København, København, Danmark. She was christened on 28 May 1812 in Skt. Petri, København, København, Danmark. Emilie was sealed to her parents on 06 Jul 1993 in the Jordan River Utah temple. She was baptized on 07 Aug 1990 in the Provo Utah temple. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 07 Aug 1990 in the Provo Utah temple. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Completed in the Provo Utah temple. She was endowed on 24 Aug 1990 in the Provo Utah temple. [Parents]

142. Johan David BAHN ^{1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7} was born ⁸ on 01 Jan 1808 in Gisselfeld Manor, Bråby, Sorø, Danmark. He was christened on 28 Feb 1808 in Gisselfeld Manor, Bråby, Sorø, Danmark. He died ^{9, 10, 11} on 24 Feb 1892 in St. Knuds sogn, Odense, Odense, Danmark. He was buried on 01 Mar 1892 in Assistens kirkegård, Odense, Odense, Danmark. Johan was sealed to his parents on 24 Mar 1992 in the Provo Utah temple. He was baptized on 14 Jun 1921. He was endowed on 20 Feb 1924 in the Logan Utah temple. Johan married ^{12, 13, 14} Anne Marie BAGGESEN ^{15, 16, 17, 18, 19} on 07 Aug 1835 in Garnisons sogn, København, København, Danmark. They were sealed on 08 Aug 1986 in the Provo Utah temple.

Johan was born on 29 Dec 1807 in Gisselfeld, Bråby S, Ringsted H. He was baptized on 01 Jan 1808 in hjemmet. He was confirmed in PåSKE 1823% in Bråby K, Ringsted H. [Parents]

Entries found by Dee Ann Larsen in May 2006:
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# Samtlige personer i husstanden
# odense, Odense, Sankt Hans Landsogn, Hedevigslunde Skovhuse, , , 40, FT-1860
# Der vises flg. felter:
# Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
# Johan David Bahn, 53 , Enke(mand), huusfader, gartner, leier,
# Marie Mathilde Bahn, 16 , Ugift, deres børn, holder huus for faderen,
# Lovise Andrea Bahn, 14 , Ugift, deres børn, ,
# Caroline Amalia Bahn, 10 , Ugift, deres børn, ,
# Johan Hermann Bahn, 8 , Ugift, deres børn, ,
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# Samtlige personer i husstanden
# odense, Odense, Odense Købstad, Odense Kjøbstad, , , 1, FT-1880
# Der vises flg. felter:
# Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
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# Laurits Christian Marius Wendelbo, 27 , Gift, sergent, huusfader, , Odense
# Caroline Amalie Wendelbo, 29 , Gift, hans kone, , Lunde sogn, Odense Amt
# Agnes Marie Wendelbo, under 1 aar , Ugift, deres datter, , Odense
# Johan David Bahn, 72 , Enke(mand), gartner (konens fader), , Gisselfeld, Sorø
# Amt
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# Samtlige personer i husstanden
# odense, Odense, Korup, Korup By, , , 83, FT-1855
# Der vises flg. felter:
# Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
# Johan David Bahn, 48 , Gift, Huusleier, Gartner, Huusfader, , Paa Giselfeld
# Anna Marie Baggesen, 44 , Gift, Hans Kone, , Kjøbenhavn
# Sophie Frederikke Bahn, 19 , Ugift, Deres Børn, , Lyngby
# Hansine Bennedi?? [Hermine Benedicte] Bahn, 18 , Ugift, Deres Børn, , Lyngby
# Johanne Kirstine Bahn, 14 , Ugift, Deres Børn, , Kjøbenhavn
# Marie Mathilde Bahn, 11 , Ugift, Deres Børn, , Sverrig
# Louisa Andrea Bahn, 9 , Ugift, Deres Børn, , Sverrig
# Caroline Amalie Bahn, 4 , Ugift, Deres Børn, , Lunde Sogn, Odense Amt
# Johan Frederik Hermann Bahn, 1 , Ugift, Deres Børn, , Her i Sognet [Korup]
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# Samtlige personer i husstanden
# kbhv, København (Staden), Sankt Annæ Øster Kvarter, , , , 6, FT-1834
# Der vises flg. felter:
# Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
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# Frederik Bahn, 43 , Gift, , Kleinsmed Mand,har for det meste ikke Sønderlig
# Arbeide,
# Anne Chatrine, 43 , Gift, , hans Kone,
# Marie Olsens, 48 , Ugift, , hun ernærer sig hved Vask,
# Frederick Emilius, 15 , Ugift, , ,
# Frederick Christian, 2 , Ugift, , ,
# Mariane, 14 , Ugift, , ,
# Lovise Katrine, 12 , Ugift, , ,
# Johanne Elisabet, 9 , Ugift, , ,
# Antonete, 5 , Ugift, , ,
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# Samtlige personer i husstanden
# kbhv, København (Staden), Sankt Annæ Vester Kvarter, , , , 6, FT-1845
# Der vises flg. felter:
# Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
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# Frederich Emilius Bahn, 26 , Ugift, , Væverlærling,logerende, Kiøbenhavn
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# Samtlige personer i husstanden
# kbhv, København (Staden), Snarens Kvarter, Snarens kvarter, , , 714, FT-1850
# Der vises flg. felter:
# Navn, Alder, Civilstand, Stilling i husstanden, Erhverv , Fødested
# Peter Petersen, 50 , Gift, , arbeidsmand, Gentofte sogn, Kjøbenhavns amt
# Frederike Wilhelmine Petersen, 39 , Gift, , hans kone, Kjøbenhavn
# Peter Ole, 8 , Ugift, , hans kone, Dito
# Frederik Emilius Bahn, 31 , Ugift, , töimager svend, logerende, Dito
# Dortea Halmgren, 29 , Ugift, , sÿjomfru, logerende, Kjøge
# Alfred Molau, 21 , Ugift, , handelsbetjent, logerende, Kjøbenhavn
# Carl Fransen, 22 , Ugift, , handelsbetjent, logerende, Dito
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# Korup By, , Et Huus, 83, FT-1855 Following fields are shown:
# Name, Age, Marital status, Position in household, Occupation , Birth place Johan
# David Bahn, 48, Gift, Huusleier, Gartner, Huusfader, , Paa Giselfeld
# Anna Marie Baggesen, 44, Gift, Hans Kone, , Kjøbenhavn
# Sophie Frederikke Bahn, 19, Ugift, Deres Børn, , Lyngby
# Hansine Bennedi?? Bahn, 18, Ugift, Deres Børn, , Lyngby
# Johanne Kirstine Bahn, 14, Ugift, Deres Børn, , Kjøbenhavn
# Marie Mathilde Bahn, 11, Ugift, Deres Børn, , Sverrig
# Louisa Andrea Bahn, 9, Ugift, Deres Børn, , Sverrig
# Caroline Amalie Bahn, 4, Ugift, Deres Børn, , Lunde Sogn, Odense Amt
# Johan Frederik Hermann Bahn, 1, Ugift, Deres Børn, , Her i Sognet [Korup]
# All persons in the household
# praestoe, Baarse, Allerslev, Allerslöv, , husmand, 8.fam., FT-1834 Following
# fields are shown:
# Name, Age, Marital status, Position in household, Occupation , Birth place
# Diderich Heick, 57, Gift, , lever af sin jord, 7 tønder land.,
# Johanne Magrethe Muus, 43, Gift, , hans kone,
# Jacob Boesen, 19, Ugift, , tjenestefolk,
# Karen Hans Datter, 24, Ugift, , tjenestefolk,
# Jens Peder Baggesen, 33, Gift, , skibscaptain,
# Dorthea Cramer, 28, Gift, , hans kone,
# Kirsten Peders Datter, 22, Ugift, , deres tjenestepige,
# persons in the household
# København, København (Staden), Udenbys Vester Kvarter, Vesterbroe, , 2 st Etage,
# Nr. 78 B, FT-1840 Following fields are shown:
# Name, Age, Marital status, Position in household, Occupation , Birth place
# Cicilie Hansen, 40, Enke, , Efter Hestehandler Hansen, Logerende,
# Jacob Winsløw, 39, Ugift, , Isenkræmmer, logerende,
# Magnus Hagen Baggesen, 28, Ugift, , Studichus Juris,
# All persons in the household
# København, København (Staden), Udenbys Klædebo Kvarter, Udenbys Klædebo Kvt. 1,
# , Nørrebro 43, Qvisten, 3, FT-1840 Following fields are shown:
# Name, Age, Marital status, Position in household, Occupation , Birth place Johan
# David Bohn, 33, Gift, , Gartner,
# Ane Marie Baggesen, 27, Gift, , hans Kone,
# Sophie Frederike -, 4, Ugift, , Børn,
# Hermine Benedicte -, 3, Ugift, , Børn,
# Carl Harald Baggesen, 24, Ugift, , Secondlieutenant af det Slesvigske Inft.
# Regt., All persons in the
# household København, Sokkelund, Lyngby, en Gartnerbolig, , Frederiksdals Gods,
# 6, FT-1834 Following fields are shown:
# Name, Age, Marital status, Position in household, Occupation , Birth place Johan
# David Bahn, 27, Ugift, , Gartner,
# All persons in the household
# København, København (Staden), Udenbys Klædebo Kvarter, Udenbys Klædebo kvarter,
# , Østerbro no.106, stuen, 176, FT-1850 Following fields are shown:
# Name, Age, Marital status, Position in household, Occupation , Birth place Carl
# v Baggesen, 32, Gift, , liunt. ved 3die batt, ridder af d., Kjøbenhavn
# Frederikke Baggesen, 30, Gift, , hans kone, Ditto
# Hermine Baggesen, 9, Ugift, , deres datter, Slesvig
# Helene Baggesen, 6, Ugift, , ditto, Fredericia
# Marie Olander, 24, Ugift, , tjenestepige, Kjøbenhavn
# All persons in the household
# København, København (Staden), Christianshavn Kvarter, Christianshavn kvarter I,
# , Lille Torvegade 110, 2den sal, 706, FT-1850 Following fields are shown:
# Name, Age, Marital status, Position in household, Occupation , Birth place Peder
# Baggesen, 48, Gift, , capitain ved Artilleriet, fraw i Krigstjeneste, Nestved
# Güstavine Baggesen, 36, Gift, , hans kone, Randers
# Fritz Baggesen, 15, Ugift, , deres børn, Rendsborg
# Hermine Baggesen, 14, Ugift, , deres børn, Rendsborg
# Laura Baggesen, 13, Ugift, , deres børn, Rendsborg
# Christian Baggesen, 11, Ugift, , deres børn, Rendsborg
# Carl Baggesen, 7, Ugift, , deres børn, Rendsborg
# Marie Andersen, 25, Ugift, , tjenestepige, Humlebek
#

DEATH: Also shown as Died Danmark.

Census
1860 • Hedevigslunde Skovhuse, Odense, Sct Hans, Odense, Denmark
507 Johan David Bahn Male 53 1807 Widow Husfader gartner, leier 508 Marie Mathilde Bahn Female 16 1844, 509 Lovise Andrea Bahn Female 14 1846 .510 Caroline Amalia Bahn Female 10 1850, Johan Frederik Bahn 8

Census
1870 • kongensgade, odense købstad, Odense, Fyn, Denmark
5514 Johan Frederik Herman Bahn Male 15 1855 Single Lærling Snedkerlærling

Census 1880

Johan David BAHN
Alder:  72 år
Fødested:  Gisselfeld
ækteskabelig stilling:  Enkemand
Forhus:  29 Albanegård, Odense, Fyn, Danmark.
Hvornår folketællet:  1ste Februat 1880

143. Anne Marie BAGGESEN ^{1, 2, 3, 4, 5} was born ^{6, 7} on 16 Aug 1811 in København, København amt, Danmark. She was christened on 18 Oct 1811 in Trinitatis, Kobenhavn, Kobenhavn, Danmark. She died on 30 Nov 1859 in Gråbrødre Hospital, Odense, Odense, Danmark. She was buried on 08 Dec 1859 in Gråbrødre Hospital, Odense, Odense, Danmark. Anne was sealed to her parents on 27 Oct 1993 in the Las Vegas Nevada temple. She was baptized on 10 Jun 1993 in the Las Vegas Nevada temple. She was endowed on 29 Mar 1917 in the Salt Lake Utah temple.

Anne was born in 1809 in , Copenhagen, Copenhagen, Danmark. She was baptized in 18 OKT 1811 in København, Trinitatis K, Sokkelund H. She was confirmed on 22 Apr 1827% in København, Garnison K, Sokkelund Herred, Danmark. [Parents]

GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Ane Marie

BIRTH: Also shown as Born København, Tagenshus, Trinitatis S, Sokkelund H.

DEATH: Also shown as Died Odense, Gråbrødre Hosp, Odense H.

BURIAL: Also shown as Buried Odense, Gråbrødre Hosp. Kgd, Odense H.

-- Email from Viggo Jensen from Denmark (12 Dec 2010, now deceased):

Anne Marie Baggesen
4 messages
vj46@mail.dk Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 8:53 AM
To: sre.1966@gmail.com
Hi.

My name is Viggo Jensen, and I am a great great grand son of Anne Marie Baggesen.
I got from my grandmother a pedigree of The Baggesen family, beginning in Ribe 1574 and ending with Anne Maerie Baggesen and her brothers and sisters.
Anne Marie Baggesen lost her father Herman Baggesen, who was out of a much more important family, before she married the gardener Johan David Bahn, who died at my great grand mother, Caroline Amalie Bahn, who was married to Laurits Christian Marius Wendelboe in Odense.

Their children were:
Sofie Frederikke Bahn born 22.06 1836 i Frederiksdal, Lyngby Sogn, married 27.04 1878 in Gråbrødre Hospital Kirke to Niels Johan hendrik Stächler. I think they lived in Ringsted.

Hermine Benedicte Bahn, born 05.10 1837, Søløst, Gentofte Sogn

Johanne Christine Bahn born 1842? on the island Amager. I have not been able to find her

Marie Mathilde Bahn, born 14.05 1844, at the manor Belteberg in Ottarp Sogn, Skåne, Sweden

Lovise Andrea Bahn, born 1846? in Engeltofta, Barkåkra Sogn, Skåne, Sweden.

Caroline Amalie Bahn, born 26.10 1850 in Ulkendrup Mark, Lunde Sogn, Odense Amt (MY familily)

Johan Frederik Herman Bahn, born 14.06 1854 in Billehaven, Trøstrup-Korup Sogn. I do not know what happened to him.

5 years later Anne Marie Baggesen died, and the family mowed before 1860 to Sankt Hans Landsogn in the northern part of todays Odense

The counting 1860, Hedevighuus, Sankt Hans Landsogn:
Navn:       

Alder:

Ægtest.

Fødesogn:

Håndtering:

Johan David Bahn

53

enkemd

Gisselfeldt, Præstø Amt

Huusfader, Gartner

Marie Mathilde Bahn

16

ugift

Ottorp, Malmøhuus Len

holder Huus for Faderen

Lovise Andrea Bahn

14

-

Caroline Amalie Bahn

10

-

Lunde S, Od. A.

Johan Hermann Bahn

8

-

Korup S. Od. A.

When Johan David Bahn died in Odense 24.02 1892 there was written:

He left 7 children, who were:

Frederikke Bahn, widow after Policeman Stecker in Ringsted.

Vilhelmine, married to a man who lives in Australia, but whose name is not remembered.

Hanne, married to a man, who lives in New Zealand, but they did not no his name.

Mathilde, married to Droscheholder (today we might say taxi-owner) Steen in Copenhagen

Andrea bahn unmarried, 44 years old

Caroline Amalie married to the man, who gave this informations.

Ships-carpenter Hermann Bahn, of whom they had no information for the last 10 years.

If you like, I can send you pedigree of Anne Marie Baggesen.

Marry Christmas and Happy New Year 2011

Viggo Jensen

Nørregade 2

DK-5592 Ejby

Mail: vj46@mail.dk

Shon Edwards Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 2:10 PM
To: vj46@mail.dk
Kære Vigo!

Det er meget interessant!  Mange takk for informationen!  (Du må unskylde mig, hvis min dansk er ikke så god, men din engelsk er perfekt!).

Jeg interesserer mig meget for (jeg ved ikke hvordan du siger "pedigree chart") af dem.  Hvis du kunne sende det til mig, ville det væere udmærket!
 
Du er den først fra Danmark, som kommer fra familian Baggesen/Bahn.  Er du på Facebook?  Jeg håper, at vi kan have en god tid sammen til at gøre genealogiskt arbeide.
 
Dette er meget interessant og jeg visste ikke så meget over denne familien.  Men, som du sagde, troede jeg at familien Baggesen (med fader Herman) var meget "højer" (er det hvordan du skriver "higher"?) en Johan David Bahn.  Og familien som kom til New Zealand, Gunder Henrik Gundersen var den samme historie.

Jeg ville gerne have alt, som du har over denne familie, og vil gerne betale for alt, som jeg behøver.

Mvh Viggo!

Du må skrive på dansk eller på engelsk.  Jeg taler dem begge to, men du ved jeg skriver dansk ikke så godt!  Jeg håper, at du har en glædelig jul!

Shon

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vj46@mail.dk Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 12:03 AM
To: Shon Edwards
Kære Shon.

Tusind tak for din mail. Det var dejligt at høre fra en, der også er interesseret i slægten. Jeg har for tiden temmelig travlt med mange ting, selv om jeg er pensionist - eller måske netop derfor.
Jeg er ikke på facebook, men jeg har netop også fået kontakt til en gammel bekendt fra Sydafrika, der nu bor i England, og hun vil også gerne have mig på facebook, så måske tager jeg mig sammen? Her bliver man ofte advaret mod facebook.
Ved du, at alle kirkebøger og folketællinger er tilgængelige på internettet?
www.arkivalieronline.dk
Du skal oprette dig som bruger, men det er gratis!

Der er også Dansk Demografisk Database, hvor du kan søge efter personer i blandt andet folketællinger, men også emigranter.
www.ddd.dda.dk
Det er også gratis!

Jeg bruger Brother's Keeper til min anetavle, men jeg ved ikke, hvordan jeg skal sende oplysningerne derfra til dig. Denne gang vedhæfter jeg derfor, hvad jeg p.t har skrevet om Anne Marie Baggesen, hendes far Herman Baggesen og hendes farfar Rasmus Baggesen.
Jeg er ved at rekonstruere hele min stamtavle, da den ligger på en computer, der pludselig gik ned, og ingen har kunnet hjælpe mig med at få ting ud derfra, og jeg havde kun delvis sikkerhedskopi.

Mange hilsner og Glædelig jul og Godt nytår til jer alle dernede i varmen. Vi har det ualmindelig koldt i år.

Viggo

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Shon Edwards Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 3:13 PM
To: Maureen Davidson
Maureen,

God dag!  Hvordan har du det?  Jeg har funnet...whoops!  I am so sorry.  My brain is stuck in this Danish stuff; I was just writing to Viggo.  Here are a couple of dox that I neglected to forward to you.  I wll write again, if I find any more dox I didn't send you.
 
Hope you are taking care of yourself.

Shon

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144. Johan Conrad Christiansen BENNER ¹ was born in Cal 1772 in Danmark. He was christened on 23 Oct 1768 in Ærøskøbing købstad, Æro herred, Fyn, Danmark. He died on 04 Jan 1848 in Sindbjerg, Vejle, Danmark. He was buried on 09 Jan 1848 in Sindbjerg, Vejle, Danmark. Johan was sealed to his parents on 11 May 1961 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He was baptized on 20 Jan 1940. He was endowed on 06 Mar 1941. Johan married Sidsel LAURITSEN ¹ on 01 Nov 1792 in Klovborg, Skanderborg, Danmark. They were sealed on 08 Dec 1959 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. [Parents]

Found in 1801 census:

Year: FT-1801 Source reference: 278
Household No: 4
Name: Sidsel Lauritsdatter Gender: K
Age: 35 Civil status: Gift
Position in household: Hans Kone
No of marriage: 1
Parish: Hammer District: Vrads
Shire: Skanderborg Place name: Parceller paa Hammergaard Mark
Source entry No: B7516 Record No.: 19
All members of the household
Name: Age: Married?: Pos. in household: Occupation: BirTD place:
Johan Kristjansen   29   Gift   Mand   Huusmand med Jord    
Sidsel Lauritsdatter   35   Gift   Hans Kone      
Laurits Johansen   7   Ugift   deres Barn      
Johannes Johansen   5   Ugift   deres Barn      
Kristjan Bauner   66   Enke   Mandes Fader   nyder ophold af Gaarden    
Lists his father.

145. Sidsel LAURITSEN ¹ was born in Cal 1766 in Danmark. She was christened on 02 May 1764 in Klovborg, Skanderborg, Danmark. She died on 01 Jul 1824 in Sindbjerg, Vejle, Danmark. She was buried on 07 Jul 1824 in Sindbjerg, Vejle, Danmark. Sidsel was sealed to her parents on 23 Feb 1935 in the Logan Utah temple. She was baptized on 16 Feb 1904. She was endowed on 11 Mar 1904. [Parents]

146. Søren CHRISTENSEN ¹ was christened on 17 Sep 1741 in Grejs, Vejle, Danmark. He was buried on 21 Mar 1813 in Vindelev, Vejle, Danmark. Søren was sealed to his parents on 19 Sep 1968 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He was baptized on 15 Nov 1954. He was endowed on 01 Feb 1955. Søren married Kirstine MORTENSEN ¹ on 18 Jun 1796 in Sindbjerg, Vejle, Danmark. They were sealed on 08 Feb 1957 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. [Parents]

1801 census

Year: FT-1801 Source reference: 94
Cadastre/Address: Hus
Household No: 6
Name: Morten Sørensen Gender: M
Age: 1 Civil status: Ugift
Position in household: Deres Børn
Parish: Vindelev District: Nørvang
Shire: Vejle Place name: Fløystrup
Source entry No: B9142 Record No.: 218
All members of the household
Name: Age: Married?: Pos. in household: Occupation: BirTD place:
Søren Christensen   62   Gift   Mand   Huusmand med Jord    
Kirstina MortensDtr.   30   Gift   Hans Kone      
Else Kirstina SørensDatter   8   Ugift   Hans Datter af første Ægteskab      
Anna Magretha SørensDatter   4   Ugift   Deres Børn      
Morten Sørensen   1   Ugift   Deres Børn

147. Kirstine MORTENSEN ¹ was christened on 12 Aug 1770 in Sindbjerg, Vejle, Danmark. She died on 25 May 1835 in Vindlev, Vejle, Danmark. She was buried on 31 May 1835 in Vindlev, Vejle, Danmark. Kirstine was sealed to her parents on 21 Aug 1968. She was baptized on 15 Nov 1954. She was endowed on 20 Apr 1955. [Parents]

148. Peter Konrad ROSSOW ¹ was christened ^{2, 3, 4} on 21 Jun 1778 in Stralsund (St. Jakobi parish), Pommern, Preußen, Deutschland. Peter was sealed to his parents on 07 Sep 1996 in the Provo Utah temple. He was baptized on 01 May 1954 in the Logan Utah temple. He was endowed on 07 Jan 1955 in the Logan Utah temple. Peter married Margrethe ALVSEN ⁵ on 17 Jan 1798 in Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. They were sealed on 08 Oct 1955 in the Logan Utah temple.

Peter Konrad ROSSOW worked as Kleinfischer = Fisherman in from to . Peter Konrad ROSSOW worked as Lotse = Boat pilot in from to . Peter Konrad ROSSOW worked as Fischer = Fisherman in Stralsund (St. Jakobi parish), Pommern, Preußen, Deutschland from 1818 to 1818. [Parents]

-- Apparently married Margareta ALVSEN, went back to GErmany, married again and had kids there, SRE, 16 Apr 2024.

-- Always thought mother's maiden name was Haack.  Only place I caan find it though is in marriage entry of son Peter Konrad, and it says Böck, SRE, 25 Jul 2020.

149. Margrethe ALVSEN ¹ was christened on 24 Jul 1771 in Søndeled, Aust-Agder, Norge. She died on 08 May 1830 in Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. She was buried on 17 May 1830 in Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. Margrethe was sealed to her parents on 13 Feb 1956 in the Logan Utah temple. She was baptized on 01 May 1954 in the Logan Utah temple. She was endowed on 17 Nov 1954 in the Logan Utah temple. [Parents]

150. Christen OLSEN was born in 1775 in Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. He was christened on 26 Feb 1775 in Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. He died on 27 Jun 1829 in Søndeled, Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. He was buried on 02 Jul 1829 in Søndeled, Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. Christen was sealed to his parents on 20 Jun 1984 in the Seattle Washington temple. He was baptized on 29 Jun 1940 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 29 Jun 1940 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He received his initiatory on 27 Nov 1940 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He was endowed on 27 Nov 1940 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. Christen married Inger JOHNSEN on 09 Jul 1798 in Søndeled, Aust-Agder, Norge. They were sealed on 19 Jan 1959 in the Logan Utah temple. [Parents]

151. Inger JOHNSEN was born in 1776 in Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. She was christened on 03 Mar 1776 in Risør, Aust-Agder, Norge. She died. Inger was sealed to her parents on 30 Apr 1960 in the Logan Utah temple. She was baptized on 02 Nov 1957. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 02 Nov 1957. She received her initiatory on 14 Nov 1957 in the Logan Utah temple. She was endowed on 14 Nov 1957 in the Logan Utah temple. [Parents]

152. John COMISH ^{1, 2} was born on 01 Jan 1773 in Cairbre (Arbory) Parish, Rosien (Rushen) Sheading, Ellan Vannin. He was christened on 07 Jan 1773 in Cairbre (Arbory) Parish, Rosien (Rushen) Sheading, Ellan Vannin. He died on 22 Sep 1811 in Purt le Moirrey (Port St. Mary), Rosien (Rushen) Sheading, Ellan Vannin. He was buried ³ on 26 Sep 1811 in Cairbre (Arbory) Parish, Rosien (Rushen) Sheading, Ellan Vannin. John was sealed to his parents on 23 Jun 1939 in the Logan Utah temple. He was baptized on 13 Mar 1917 in the Logan Utah temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 29 Jun 1936 in the Logan Utah temple. He received his initiatory on 30 Oct 1936 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He was endowed on 14 Mar 1917 in the Logan Utah temple. John married Margaret DUGGAN ⁴ on 26 Dec 1795 in Cairbre (Arbory) Parish, Rosien (Rushen) Sheading, Ellan Vannin. They were sealed on 16 Nov 1893 in the Logan Utah temple.

John was born in Arbory, Ellan Vannin. He was christened in Arbory, Ellan Vannin. He died in Kirk Rushen, Ellan Vannin. He was buried in Arbory, Ellan Vannin. He was baptized on 29 Jun 1936. He was endowed in Completed. [Parents]

PROOF OF RELAION

Two John's were borm around same time/place.  Correct tombdtone shows he died 38 y.o. in 1811.  Son & his wife also buried in same place, SRE, 15 May 2622.

I have same burial date at Verla, but I also have the death date, 24 Sep 1811 and location of death as Port la Mooserey or something and burial in Arbory also, not Port St. Mary I think Port St. Mary is in Rushen. Lanny, has 22 Sep 1811 in Port St. Mary as well.

https://www.familysearch.org/photos/artifacts/6262382 clearly shows St. Mary, tombstone born in 1773. and parish index show a john b. to robt ande jane in 1773, also records in SLC give his parents, the same ones that John, his brother and have, SRE, 11 Apr 2022.

153. Margaret DUGGAN ¹ was christened on 28 Feb 1770 in Malew Parish, Rosien (Rushen) Sheading, Ellan Vannin. She died on 01 Jul 1843 in Malew Parish, Rosien (Rushen) Sheading, Ellan Vannin. She was buried ² on 03 Jul 1843 in Cairbre (Arbory) Parish, Rosien (Rushen) Sheading, Ellan Vannin. Margaret was baptized on 28 Jul 1875. She was endowed on 16 Nov 1893. [Parents]

154. Patrick KEGG ¹ was christened on 26 Apr 1773 in Kirk Rushen, Rushen, Ellan Vannin. He was buried on 14 Aug 1811 in Kirk Rushen, Rushen, Ellan Vannin. Patrick was baptized on 27 Jan 1885. He was endowed on 28 Jan 1885. Patrick married Jane MOORE ¹ on 11 Feb 1802 in Kirk Rushen, Rushen, Ellan Vannin. They were sealed on 15 Jul 1885. [Parents]

155. Jane MOORE ¹ was christened on 05 Sep 1779 in Kirk Rushen, Rushen, Ellan Vannin. She was buried on 17 Sep 1845 in Rushen, Ellan Vannin. Jane was sealed to her parents on 01 Jan 1950 in the Logan Utah temple. She was baptized on 28 Oct 1884. She was endowed on 29 Oct 1884. [Parents]

156. Stephen STANFORD was born on 08 Oct 1775 in Portslade, Sussex, England. He was christened on 31 Mar 1775 in Chailey, Sussex, England. He died on 25 Feb 1815 in Portslade, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. He was buried on 25 Feb 1815 in Portslade, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. Stephen was sealed to his parents on 05 Mar 1957 in the Cardston Alberta temple. He was baptized on 22 May 1923 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 22 May 1923 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He received his initiatory on 15 May 1924 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He was endowed on 15 May 1924 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. Stephen married Susannah TRUSSLER on 26 Jan 1806 in Southwick, Sussex, England. They were sealed on 29 Jul 1937. [Parents]

157. Susannah TRUSSLER was born on 11 Feb 1784 in Portslade, Sussex, England. She was christened on 11 Jul 1784 in Portslade, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. She died on 29 Feb 1824 in Portslade, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. She was buried on 29 Feb 1824 in Portslade, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. Susannah was sealed to her parents on 05 Jan 1949 in the Cardston Alberta temple. She was baptized on 22 Oct 1895 in the Logan Utah temple. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 22 Oct 1895 in the Logan Utah temple. She received her initiatory on 17 Nov 1933 in the Mesa Arizona temple. She was endowed on 17 Nov 1933 in the Mesa Arizona temple. [Parents]

158. Thomas BARNETT was born before 31 Mar 1777 in Ashurst, Sussex, England. He was christened on 31 Mar 1777 in Ashurst, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. He died on 29 Jun 1845 in Lancing, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. He was buried on 04 Jul 1845 in Southwick, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. Thomas was sealed to his parents on 19 Dec 2017 in the Provo City Center temple. He was baptized on 01 Jun 1897 in the Logan Utah temple. He was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 01 Jun 1897 in the Logan Utah temple. He received his initiatory on 04 Mar 1998 in the Mount Timpanogos Utah temple. He was endowed on 17 Nov 1973 in the Los Angeles California temple. Thomas married Elizabeth NEWNHAM on 17 Apr 1805 in Saint Nicholas, Brighton, Sussex, England. They were sealed on 26 Sep 1919 in the Logan Utah temple.

Thomas resided in 1841 in Lancing, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. His will was probated on 28 Jul 1858 in England, United Kingdom. [Parents]

159. Elizabeth NEWNHAM was born on 24 Oct 1784 in Ringmer, Sussex, England. She was christened on 24 Oct 1784 in Ringmer, Sussex, England. She died on 29 Jan 1842 in Lancing, Sussex, England, United Kingdom. Elizabeth was sealed to her parents on 15 Jan 1953 in the Cardston Alberta temple. She was baptized on 08 Dec 1934 in the Mesa Arizona temple. She was confirmed a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on 08 Dec 1934 in the Mesa Arizona temple. She received her initiatory on 02 Dec 1939 in the St. George Utah temple. She was endowed on 02 Dec 1939 in the St. George Utah temple.

Elizabeth resided in 1841 in Lancing, Sussex, England. She was counted in a census in 1841 in Eldersfield, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom. [Parents]

160. Obadiah PRATT ¹ was born on 14 Sep 1742 in Saybrook, Middlesex, Connecticut, United States. He died on 02 Mar 1797 in Canaan, Columbia, New York, United States. Obadiah was sealed to his parents on 22 Sep 1930 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. He was baptized on 19 May 1870. He was endowed on 12 Apr 1877. Obadiah married Jemima TOLLES ¹ in 1768. They were sealed on 06 Dec 1870 in the Endowment House temple.

Obadiah PRATT worked as Private in from to . [Parents]

NOTE:  Obadiah Pratt also endowed 2 Jan 1895.

161. Jemima TOLLES ¹ was born on 11 Aug 1754 in New Haven, New Haven, Connecticut, United States. She died on 24 Nov 1812 in Washington, Dutchess, New York, United States. Jemima was sealed to her parents on 19 Feb 1937 in the Salt Lake Utah temple. She was baptized on 19 May 1870. She was endowed on 25 Aug 1893. [Parents]