B Slagelse par rec. (FHL ). IGI.
C IGI: C200503;147.
M Family information. (check Garnisons sogn)
D 1898 NZ Reg. Gen. Registration, cert # 7802, issued 8 Feb 1960.
Bur Tombstone reads "Gunder Gudnerson J.P. born at Slagelse, Denmark Dec. 23, 1835. Died at Mauriceville, N.Z. Sep. 30th 1898. Public, spirited, upright, faithful, and sympathetic. This stone is erected by his fellow settlers in grateful remembrance of many a kindly deed."
--Note one little problem with the information given below as the first note in the log and compare it with the document given just below this note. We show in family records that Thor Johan Gundersen died at sea in 1872. however, he shows up alive 3/4 years old (i.e., June 1872 is when he was born. Be certain of dates before cementing this, however. here is the information:
Navn: Gundersen, Betty E. Stilling: Barn
Alder: 05 Bestemmelsessted: Ny Zeeland
Kontrakt nr.: 550300 Forevisningsdato: 21-09-1872
Fødesogn: ?
Sidste oph.sogn: København Sidste oph. amt: København
Sidste oph.sted: Kjbhvn. Bestemmelses land: New Zealand
Bestemmelses by: ? Bestemmelses stat: ?
Skibsnavn: Indirekte
IDkode: I7273G0405
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Navn: Gundersen, Gunder H. Stilling: Landmand
Alder: 36 Bestemmelsessted: Ny Zeeland
Kontrakt nr.: 550300 Forevisningsdato: 21-09-1872
Fødesogn: ?
Sidste oph.sogn: København Sidste oph. amt: København
Sidste oph.sted: Kjbhvn. Bestemmelses land: New Zealand
Bestemmelses by: ? Bestemmelses stat: ?
Skibsnavn: Indirekte
IDkode: I7273G0402
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Navn: Gundersen, Jenny H. Stilling: Barn
Alder: 03 Bestemmelsessted: Ny Zeeland
Kontrakt nr.: 550300 Forevisningsdato: 21-09-1872
Fødesogn: ?
Sidste oph.sogn: København Sidste oph. amt: København
Sidste oph.sted: Kjbhvn. Bestemmelses land: New Zealand
Bestemmelses by: ? Bestemmelses stat: ?
Skibsnavn: Indirekte
IDkode: I7273G0406
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Navn: Gundersen, Hernina B. Stilling: Hustru
Alder: 34 Bestemmelsessted: Ny Zeeland
Kontrakt nr.: 550300 Forevisningsdato: 21-09-1872
Fødesogn: ?
Sidste oph.sogn: København Sidste oph. amt: København
Sidste oph.sted: Kjbhvn. Bestemmelses land: New Zealand
Bestemmelses by: ? Bestemmelses stat: ?
Skibsnavn: Indirekte
IDkode: I7273G0403
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Navn: Gundersen, T. J. Stilling: Barn
Alder: 00 3/4 Bestemmelsessted: Ny Zeeland
Kontrakt nr.: 550300 Forevisningsdato: 21-09-1872
Fødesogn: ?
Sidste oph.sogn: København Sidste oph. amt: København
Sidste oph.sted: Kjbhvn. Bestemmelses land: New Zealand
Bestemmelses by: ? Bestemmelses stat: ?
Skibsnavn: Indirekte
IDkode: I7273G0407
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Navn: Gundersen, Agnes M. Stilling: Barn
Alder: 06 Bestemmelsessted: Ny Zeeland
Kontrakt nr.: 550300 Forevisningsdato: 21-09-1872
Fødesogn: ?
Sidste oph.sogn: København Sidste oph. amt: København
Sidste oph.sted: Kjbhvn. Bestemmelses land: New Zealand
Bestemmelses by: ? Bestemmelses stat: ?
Skibsnavn: Indirekte
IDkode: I7273G0404
Name: Bahn, J. K.Occupation: Pige
Age: 23Destination: Ny Zeeland
Contract no.: 550400Registration date: 9/21/1872
Birth place: ?
Last res. parish: KøbenhavnLast res. county: København
Last residence: Kjbhvn.Destination country: New Zealand
Destination city: ?Destination state: ?
Name of ship: Indirekte
IDcode: I7273B0809
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this is the shipping account transcribed by the LDS church in Hamilton years ago : -
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Passenger List
Name of Ship "Crusader"
Date of Departure 21 September 1872 from Copenhagen Denmark
Port of Departure 12 Oct 1872 from London, England
Date of Arrival 5 January 1873
Port of Arrival Lyttleton, New Zealand
Total Cost of Passage £ 13-0-0
Amount Paid by Family
Promissory Notes £ 5-0-0
Total Cost to Government £ 8-0-0
Number of Souls on Board
Details
County/Country Copenhagen, Denmark
Occupation
Name and Age Bahn, Johanna K 23
!NOTES/LOG:
-- Family moved from Copenhagen to London and lived for 1 year before embarking to New Zealand. They left on the SS Crusader for Canterbury, NZ and arrived 10 October 1872. Gunder Gundersen listed as 36 years old, Hermine,
34, Agnes, 6, Betty, 5, Thor, 1. Passage #52, cash 2# 10s, promissory note, 35#, present government cost, 49# 10s, ultimate government cost, 14# 10s.
-- Johanna K. Bahn, sister to Hermine, age 23 servant was also on board. Total cost of passage 13#, promissory note 3#, present cost to gov't, 13#, ultimate cost to gov`t 8#.
-- FHLC - NZ, Wairarapa (under city). The only stuff for Wairarapa is:
Appellate land court minute book 1898-1904
FHL 450,771 (SLC) (Maori genealogies).
Land court minute book (maori genealogies again)
NZ - Wairarapa Valley (one record)
Church records (1) LDS record of members 1886-1950.
SURNAME: Also shown as Gunnersen
GIVEN NAMES: Also shown as Gunner Heinrich
BIRTH: Also shown as Born Slagelse B, Sorø H.
DEATH: Also shown as Died Mauriceville, Wairarapa, New Zealand.
Histories of the Voyages of Immigrants to New Zealand
Who Were Ancestors of Clifford H. Edwards
Most of This Document Was Prepared By
Ruby Franklin Holbeck My Great Aunt
I Have Taken the Liberty of Making a Few Additions
By
Clifford H. Edwards
The following is an excerpt from New Zealand Shipwrecks: 1795-1960 by C.W.N. Irgram and P. O. Wheatley:
Phoenix- Schooner: The vessel sailed from Nelson for Wellington on November 21, 1846 with a complement of seven persons, including a Mr. Perry, a merchant, and was wrecked somewhere between Stephen and D'Urvill Islands, with the loss of all hands. The weather was very foggy at the time of the casualty, and the first intimation of the disaster was the finding of a paper parcel belonging to Mr. Perry, several other articles and the timbers of a vessel about the size of the Phoenix near Rangitoto. In August 1847 it was reported that the keel of a vessel of about 40 Feet in length was seen off Port Gore, and was thought to be a part of the hull of the Phoenix. The Phoenix, registered No. 5 of 1846 Port of Nelson, was a schooner of 37 tons register, built at Nelson in 1846 by Alexander Perry and her dimensions were length 48.8 feet, beam 13.6 feet, depth 7.7 feet. She was owned by Alexander Perry of Nelson, merchant and was commanded by Captain George Cooper.
Captain George Cooper was a former mate of the Fifeshire. The Captain of the Phoenix has left a wife and young family for whom a subscription will be opened at the custom house.
The following is a brief outline of the history of the Cooper-Hurren, Franklin-Hurren, Douglas-Hurren and Franklin-Gunderson families as told by Ruby Franklin:
In 1841 when the first settlers and surveyors were leaving England there was one man who cam out on either the Whitby or S. Fifeshire who perhaps had a considerable influence on the history of these people. His name was Richard Maund. But more about him later.
It was in the year 1842 on the 1st of February that the S Fifeshire arrived at Nelson, bringing out from England the main body of the first settlers to Nelson. After landing her passengers, she was trying to get out of the port, but was carried onto the rocks by the tide and fell broadside onto the arrow reef now know as Fifeshire Rock. She was wrecked on 27 February 1842.
Many of the people who traveled from England in the Fifeshire settled at Motueka and one will find in the English Church burial ground many graves of those original passengers of the Fifeshire. The font in use at St. Thomas' Anglican Church was made from the mast of this ship.
Mary Anne Hurren was a passenger on this ship and I believe, was born in Kent, England in the year 1824 according to what she had told me, Being 18 years of age at that time. She must have had her first birthday in New Zealand shortly after her arrival here as her birthday was on the 14th of February.
Shortly after arrival in Nelson, Marry Anne Hurren was married to George Cooper, who came out as mate on the S Fifeshire. They lived at first in Nelson in Have Road, I believe. George Cooper was later in 1846, Captain of the schooner Pheonix which was also built by him, and three others whose names are unknown to me although my cousin Mand Slatter thinks one of them was a Mr. Lightbrand.
The Phoenix sailed out on her maiden voyage, on November 21 1846 and was wrecked with seven persons on board. There was one passenger, a Mr. Perry of Nelson, who was also the owner of the boat. George Cooper, Captain of the boat, left a wife and two young daughters, Maria who later married Captain Robert McNabb and Francis who married George Boyce. A third child, another daughter, was not born until about 7 months after this sad happening. Her name was Mary Ann and she married John William Slatter in 1861. (note: It was thought that the Phoenix may have struck a rock.)
In 1848 on the 19th day of October, Mary Ann Hurren Cooper married my paternal grandfather, Robert Benjamin Franklin, who arrived in Nelson from England in the year 1842. He came out on the S. Lloyds which arrived on the 15th of February at the Haven Nelson. He and two brothers, James and Alex were listed under the name of Maund, and two sisters under the name of Franklin. They traveled out with Mrs. Mary Ann Maund who was listed as their mother. The names of the girls were Maria Emily aged 17 years and Sarah Ann aged 15 years. Robert Benjamin was listed as 13 years and Alex 9 years and I believe Thomas was 11 years. But his name (Thomas) was struck off the list so presume he must have been one of the unfortunate children who died on the voyage out from England. In the ship's report, it was stated that no less than 65 children died on the passage. Shortly after their arrival in New Zealand, Robert Benjamin and Alex went back to the name of Franklin.
Mary Ann Maund may have been Mary Ann Franklin before her marriage to Richard Maund. Mary Ann Franklin's name was Godsall.
Robert Benjamin Franklin and Mary Ann Hurren Cooper Franklin had a family of eight, four sons and four daughters. The sons were Robert, Benjamin, Thomas, and George Reuben. The daughters were Alice Maud, Ellen Jane, Agnes, and Jessie.
On 16 July 1867 my grandfather (Paternal) died and once more Mary Anne Hurren was left to morn the loss of a husband, and father of her children. He was only 39 years of age and my grandmother 43. Very young to have been widowed twice.
During the time of one of the disturbances between the Maoris and the white settlers, my grandmother was befriended by a Maori who had evidently some influence. At this time many of the settlers were massacred, but my grandmother and her young family were spared as a result of the intervention of this Maori. He came to her and told her of what was going to take place (he could speak a little English) but told her that if she wold do as he told her she would be safe, also her children. She was living quite a distance from any of the other settlers and was alone with her children and so was naturally terrified of what might happen to them. But the Maori had told her to stay in the house and keep the children in the house with her and they would be safe. As time went on, she became more anxious and almost decided to take the children outside and try to hide amongst the trees. But then she thought of what the Maori had said to her, that she would be safe provided she stayed in the house with the children. So she stayed and when the raiding party came they went through the house but when they came to her cabin trunk they became very suspicious as they thought it large enough for a man to hide in it. She could not speak any Maori, but tried to tell them, by raising both her hands to lift the lid. This she did several times. Then one of the party understood what she was trying to convey to them. He went over to the trunk, but made several attempts before finally raising the lid, as he was still afraid of what might be hidden inside. This trunk contained many of grandmother's cherished possessions which she had brought out from England with her. These she gave to the Maoris hoping and praying that they would take them and leave her and her children in safety. This they did after a final look around.
When her family was grown up she used to go over to visit her neighbor whose property adjoined hers so I have been told as she would be worried as to whether he was in good health or she could have had an accident. Her neighbor was Mr. William Douglas and was a widower. He too was left alone as his family were married and had homes of their own. If he did not see my grandmother about, he would be over to see if she was alright. In 1880 they decided to get married and so help each other. William Douglas was born in Jedburg Scotland in 1819 and married Mary Dixon at North Shids Scotland in 1841 at the age of 22 and came to New Zealand in 1843. He died on 20 Jan 1901 leaving Mary Anne Hurren a widow for the third time. He also left a family of five sons and three daughters by his first marriage.
My grandmother Mary Ann Hurren lived until the 5th of October 1916. Many of her decedents learned to love and honor this wonderful old pioneer as did many others who came in contact with her. She spent many of her last years at our home in Kopuaranga and she was sadly missed when she died there in 1916. She was buried in the Gunderson family plot along side her son (My father) George Reubin Franklin who had preceded her on 18 July 1901. (This being her wish). At the Mauriceville West Lutheran Cemetery, Wairarapa, New Zealand.
The house where my father was born and where he spent his boyhood days and later when he was ill came to stay with his mother in hopes of recovering in some small measure his health, overlooked Ruby Bay. I had often wondered why I was given the name of Ruby, but it was not until 1934 when I was staying with my brother Alex and his wife, formerly Catherine Drummond, at Braeburn Moutere that I found out. My brother took us for a motor trip around to place he thought that I might be interested in seeing. He pointed out the place where the house my father was born in once stood. It had been destroyed by fire, I understand, but the trees were still there and part of the garden was still in evidence. There is a beautiful view from this place of Ruby Bay. My brother told me that my father named me Ruby after this bay which he loved so much.
My mother was born in Copoenhagen Denmark on the 12th of March 1866 and came to New Zealand with her father Gunder Heinrich Gundersen and her mother Hermione Benedicte Bahn Gunderson and her sisters Betty Emile and Jenny Henriette. Also an Aunt Johanne Bahn per the S Crusader which left from London October 10, 1872 and arrived in Christchurch, New Zealand on 6 January 1873. Her only brother at that time was Thor Johan who died on the voyage out. His age was one year and some months.
My grandfather Gunder Heinrich Gundersen left Denmark for London England 12 months before they embarked for New Zealand, as he wished to learn more of the English language and more of the English customs before coming out here. My grandmother had spent some time in England before her marriage. Hermione, or (Hermine) Benedicte Gundersen and her sister Johanne Bahn stayed in Christchurch for some time with the family after Gunder Heinrich Gundersen had left en rout to Maruriceville. They opened up a laundry there and waited until it was possible for them to travel to their destination in the Wairarapa. The roads were little more than tracks in those days. Their first house was built from rough sawn timber and slabs to shingle the roof. The shingles were hand cut.
There is a story told about the fact that in Mauriceville at the Gunderson's place there was a wooden platform built upon which they held dances.
